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hostileuniverse said: It would also be liberals best chance to get rid of them first and second amendments they loath so much.
Keep make believing. You are the straw man god after all.
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hostileuniverse said: It would also be liberals best chance to get rid of them first and second amendments they loath so much.
Keep make believing. You are the straw man god after all. 
Keep name calling, you are the king of name calling and insults
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I simply called you out for making a straw man argument. Why don't you just stop doing that instead of crying every time?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I simply called you out for making a straw man argument. Why don't you just stop doing that instead of crying every time?
Why don't you stop acting like a bully? Is that all you have? Insults? The mighty great debater too smart for all us peons, wins arguments by insulting people, good job buddy
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Johnson reminds of me O'Malley when I hear him talk. They both talk like they're trying to sound presidential. O'Malley whistled his 's's though lol!
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Gary Johnson is having a 2nd town hall appearance on CNN on Wednesday. If Gov. Romney decides to endorse the Johnson/Weld ticket, that should be enough to propel them to the 15% threshold and into the debates.
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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: schwarg]
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schwarg said: Gary Johnson is having a 2nd town hall appearance on CNN on Wednesday. If Gov. Romney decides to endorse the Johnson/Weld ticket, that should be enough to propel them to the 15% threshold and into the debates.
Romney? Why the hell would an endorsement by a loser give him a boost?
Don't misunderstand, I think he should be on the ticket, but Romney? I just find it funny
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schwarg said: Gary Johnson is having a 2nd town hall appearance on CNN on Wednesday. If Gov. Romney decides to endorse the Johnson/Weld ticket, that should be enough to propel them to the 15% threshold and into the debates.
Romney? Why the hell would an endorsement by a loser give him a boost?
Don't misunderstand, I think he should be on the ticket, but Romney? I just find it funny
His political opinion holds a lot of weight with a particular brand of conservatives, namely in Utah with its Mormon population. Simply an endorsement by him would make Utah a possibility for Johnson to rack up some electoral votes. Who knows, maybe Romney decides to endorse him and then McCain follows suit, especially after his latest feud with Trump.
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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: schwarg]
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So the two losers that couldn't beat Obama are gonna endorse him? If I was him, I wouldn't want either of their endorsements, lol
Fact is, Hillary is a continuation of Obama, if you like him, you'll love her, people didn't choose Romney or McCain over Obama so I don't see them choosing Johnson over Hillary or Trump, it's a long shot when you pick losers to endorse tickets, (that's why Bernies endorsement of Hillary means next to nothing as well)
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hostileuniverse said: So the two losers that couldn't beat Obama are gonna endorse him? If I was him, I wouldn't want either of their endorsements, lol
Fact is, Hillary is a continuation of Obama, if you like him, you'll love her, people didn't choose Romney or McCain over Obama so I don't see them choosing Johnson over Hillary or Trump, it's a long shot when you pick losers to endorse tickets, (that's why Bernies endorsement of Hillary means next to nothing as well)
When he's below 15%, I'd say any endorsement by a disenfranchised major politician would be welcome. The reason the Republicans haven't been able to win, I believe, is their insistence on religious dogma intertwined with policy and their inability to communicate to low information voters why fiscal conservatism and small government is a good idea. That and the idea that the Democrats have perfected the art of race pandering identity politics.
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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: schwarg]
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Johnson is gonna be speaking on CNN tonight at 9, havent watched anything on him yet myself so I plan to eat dinner with my dad and give it a watch.
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Well, it was......okay, better than his last Town Hall. Wish he was more of an eloquent speaker.
Johnson isn't a principled libertarian, more of a small government liberal or 'classical liberal.'
Hey, his policy positions are still leagues better than our other two options. And Stein? No, not going to vote for a communist who believes in homeopathy and just setting student debts to zero.
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She's not a communist. I find it funny how people throw that word around so carelessly. Johnson has some good policy positions, and many terrible ones, as do all Libertarians.
Republicans have mastered pandering to poorly educated white people (and of course the wealthy), and exploiting their fears. I don't think they have to be so hard-line religious to get the vote of rednecks though. They just have to pronounce that they are religious, as demonstrated by Trump, despite all evidence to the contrary. Believers like to believe shit..
They would probably get a lot more support if they didn't advocate unconstitutional theocratic authoritarianism. It's funny that they do this while condemning the Muslims for doing the same. You'll see a guy like HU, talking about the horrors of Sharia Law, while proclaiming his desire for Christian law to be implemented in the US.
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I just bet $10 on Gary Johnson at 320 to 1. So hopefully he wins a state, throws the electoral college into deadlock and the House of Reps chooses him to be President based on the FACT that Trump and Hillary both suck.
Johnson might also suck, but at least if he does I get 3 grand.
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viktor said: I just bet $10 on Gary Johnson at 320 to 1. So hopefully he wins a state, throws the electoral college into deadlock and the House of Reps chooses him to be President based on the FACT that Trump and Hillary both suck.
Johnson might also suck, but at least if he does I get 3 grand.
Lol!
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Bigbadwooof said: She's not a communist. I find it funny how people throw that word around so carelessly. Johnson has some good policy positions, and many terrible ones, as do all Libertarians.
Republicans have mastered pandering to poorly educated white people (and of course the wealthy), and exploiting their fears. I don't think they have to be so hard-line religious to get the vote of rednecks though. They just have to pronounce that they are religious, as demonstrated by Trump, despite all evidence to the contrary. Believers like to believe shit..
They would probably get a lot more support if they didn't advocate unconstitutional theocratic authoritarianism. It's funny that they do this while condemning the Muslims for doing the same. You'll see a guy like HU, talking about the horrors of Sharia Law, while proclaiming his desire for Christian law to be implemented in the US.
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Gary lost my vote with Weld as his VP
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DividedQuantum said: I just read that Johnson wants to eliminate income taxes on businesses. I don't see that as making a lot of sense in practical terms. I would have a lot more sympathy for the Libertarian ethos if they weren't so conservative on so many key issues. It is also unrealistic to think government can be shrunk to the level they would like to see. In the modern world, government has a minimum size it can be, and at this point, it's rather sizable. Libertarians just strike me as a little off-base and unrealistic when it comes to some of their policies.
business doesnt pay taxes anyways. See that's the trick with government. The company passes costs on to consumers. They have to.
If the governemt 'taxes corporations' what they are really doing is putting a tax on your income--if you buy the product, you pay the cost of the tax. Ditto for sales tax--the sales tax is placed on the business; the business passes the cost on to you.
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Bigbadwooof said: I figured we should have a Gary Johnson thread, since he is the only 3rd party candidate with ballot access in 50 states, and I believe he has just recently polled at 12%, which means he is nearing debate eligibility.
Gary Johnson has chosen Gov. William Weld as his VP. This could get very interesting. I think lots of Bernie supporters may be willing to support Johnson, and I also think lots of disgruntled Republicans would be happy to support him.
Here is a little clip from Rachel Maddow on the topic. Look, he's even getting MSM coverage! lmao
Gary Johnson is by no means my ideal candidate. I like him more than Clinton and Trump though. So there's that.
Libertarianism, as a philosophy in modern politics, is generally a compromise between left and right wing politics. This means that the Libertarian party could potentially split the vote on both ends of the spectrum, and we could still have a very competitive race.
It is too late to revive the third parties at the time, and which a lot of people on this site has already known about these candidates months ago .. What is going on is that the Democratic party is trying to prevent Bernie's supporters from crossing over to the Trump party. And so they are in panic mode. That even obama is trying to hurry up to infiltrate the U.S. with the members of ISIS by September 11th; and so that if Trump wins the election, that the world will be in a bigger disaster than it ever has been, that it will make a fool out of Trump and plus obama wants to celebrate the September 11th disaster with real muslims from the mother-land.
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