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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: ]
    #2868576 - 07/08/04 01:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

invading iraq

Hang on mush, which of the neolibertarians were against invading Iraq?


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2868590 - 07/08/04 01:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
invading iraq

Hang on mush, which of the neolibertarians were against invading Iraq?



/raises hand


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2868676 - 07/08/04 02:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well PinochhiAl, in the same thread you said "The only figure that rings true to me is the one aid agencies have mentioned about 10 million innocent Iraqi's starving to death in the aftermath of the bombing."

I said "I still have some hope there will be no war."
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Of course then there was this one "Well doodie, being as I've said all along I hope there wouldn't be a war, let's see if you can find where I said the bombing was justified."
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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2872484 - 07/09/04 12:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Still want to play the silly names card? How tiresome. Lets hope Shroomism puts a stop to it soon.

Ok (Luvdemlies), here's the question for you again, which neolibertarian was AGAINST invading Iraq?


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2872767 - 07/09/04 02:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Before anyone can answer your question, you have to define your term. What is a neolibertarian? Who is a neolibertarian in your clouded mind?


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2872805 - 07/09/04 02:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'll play along PinochhiAl,

OK, what is a neolibertarian and who here do you see as one?

And yet again, please provide proof of my having lied. I've provided it for your lies, at your request I might add. Feel free to do the same.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2872917 - 07/09/04 02:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I thought we were neo-cons?  I'm confused. :confused:


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2872946 - 07/09/04 03:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Shhhhh.

neolibertarians is his "phrase-o-the-week".

Or to be more accurate..... "phrase-o-the-weak".


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2873049 - 07/09/04 03:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

we should place bets to see what our next designation's going to be.


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2873059 - 07/09/04 03:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I couldn't begin to guess but it's a safe bet it'll both sound stupid and be moronic.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2873097 - 07/09/04 03:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

neo-___________(fill in the blank)


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2875705 - 07/10/04 12:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

neo is the only hope we have of defeating the matrix


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2877372 - 07/11/04 05:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'll play along PinochhiAl

Don't you ever feel silly when you type in that name? Don't you think it's a little childish for someone of your age?

please provide proof of my having lied
I've provided it for your lies


There's your latest lie. You'll be telling us to prove there are no WMD in Iraq next... :rolleyes:


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2877450 - 07/11/04 07:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Don't you ever feel silly when you type in that name? Don't you think it's a little childish for someone of your age?



No, I don't. Coming from the guy who types in what you do, that reeks of hypocrisy and dishonesty.


Quote:

There's your latest lie.



Actually, no. That'd be yours. Try again.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2879028 - 07/11/04 07:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hang on mush, which of the neolibertarians were against invading Iraq?

libertarians on iraq


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2881240 - 07/12/04 06:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

neo is the only hope we have of defeating the matrix




this is true. :shiftyeyes:


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2884353 - 07/13/04 12:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Dr. J busted my gut with the matrix plug. Man what a mindfuck this thread is. People are complex and they don't fall into cookie cutter categories.

I am a conservative with a libertarian bent. I like small government. I am liberal on social issues like abortion, drugs and gay marriage, because I don't think that the government should be involved in them in the first place.

I do believe in the war on terror, and that is why I like Bush. Other than that, I think his domestic policies are a disaster. Conservatives have preached smaller government, but Republicans have held Congress for many years now and they have failed to deliver. That makes me sick, because I have been sold a bill of goods and they didn't deliver. I feel I don't have a party that represents my values of small government and individual liberty, and that is why libertarians appeal to me.

Some of you guys are really into the libertarian thing. I haven't read all the threads, because I don't know a lot specifically about it. I don't want to get in over my head and show my ignorance of the topic. If I joined the libertarian party and voted for their candidates, I feel I would be wasting my vote.

I am also a fierce capitalist. I own my own business. I believe in free markets and free trade. So I am a fiscally conservative capitalist with a libertarian bent. I guess I might be a close approximation to being a "Right Wing Libertarian". At least that is my best guess.


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: JesusChrist]
    #2885053 - 07/13/04 08:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

If I joined the libertarian party and voted for their candidates, I feel I would be wasting my vote.



Why do you feel you'd be wasting your vote? You just made it abundantly clear you're much more of a libertarian than anything else. One of the major parties is going to be in power regardless and they'd both have done, with few exceptions, the same exact things while in office. Voting Republican no longer sends a message for smaller government...not even close. The only way to get that message across is to vote libertarian. Remember, the lesser of two evils is STILL evil.


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2885091 - 07/13/04 08:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I voted for Bush in the last election, I feel I wasted my vote.


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Re: Right wing "libertarians"? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2885213 - 07/13/04 10:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Alex.

Anarchism and capitalism are not collided. Actually, it seems to be pretty good combination.

About liberwhatever shit US party. These guys are history by their understanding of politcs.

That is the reason they never got a chance and they will never get the chance.


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