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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Douglas Howard]
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Statist worship the federal government, suggesting that we lessen the Feds power and budget is akin to telling a Christian we need less churches


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
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starfire_xes said:
DividedQuantum said:
I just read that Johnson wants to eliminate income taxes on businesses.  I don't see that as making a lot of sense in practical terms.  I would have a lot more sympathy for the Libertarian ethos if they weren't so conservative on so many key issues.  It is also unrealistic to think government can be shrunk to the level they would like to see.  In the modern world, government has a minimum size it can be, and at this point, it's rather sizable.  Libertarians just strike me as a little off-base and unrealistic when it comes to some of their policies.


business doesnt pay taxes anyways.  See that's the trick with government.  The company passes costs on to consumers.  They have to. 

If the governemt 'taxes corporations' what they are really doing is putting a tax on your income--if you buy the product, you pay the cost of the tax.  Ditto for sales tax--the sales tax is placed on the business; the business passes the cost on to you.



If you weren't a corporatist whore you would realise that you could make exactly the same argument about the income tax -- once you charge an income tax, workers have to strike for higher wages to cover the tax, which means businesses have to pass the cost onto the consumer in higher prices.


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: viktor] * 1
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Sorry dude the HOR is not going to hand it to him. He's a noboby.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
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starfire_xes said:
DividedQuantum said:
I just read that Johnson wants to eliminate income taxes on businesses.  I don't see that as making a lot of sense in practical terms.  I would have a lot more sympathy for the Libertarian ethos if they weren't so conservative on so many key issues.  It is also unrealistic to think government can be shrunk to the level they would like to see.  In the modern world, government has a minimum size it can be, and at this point, it's rather sizable.  Libertarians just strike me as a little off-base and unrealistic when it comes to some of their policies.


business doesnt pay taxes anyways.  See that's the trick with government.  The company passes costs on to consumers.  They have to. 

If the governemt 'taxes corporations' what they are really doing is putting a tax on your income--if you buy the product, you pay the cost of the tax.  Ditto for sales tax--the sales tax is placed on the business; the business passes the cost on to you.


That's not how the world works. You should know better. Companies aren't suddenly going to lower prices because their taxes have gone down lol.


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: viktor] * 1
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viktor said:
If you weren't a corporatist whore you would realise that you could make exactly the same argument about the income tax -- once you charge an income tax, workers have to strike for higher wages to cover the tax, which means businesses have to pass the cost onto the consumer in higher prices.


Wow... That was an excellent argument that hadn't even crossed my mind! Well said, Viktor!


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
starfire_xes said:
DividedQuantum said:
I just read that Johnson wants to eliminate income taxes on businesses.  I don't see that as making a lot of sense in practical terms.  I would have a lot more sympathy for the Libertarian ethos if they weren't so conservative on so many key issues.  It is also unrealistic to think government can be shrunk to the level they would like to see.  In the modern world, government has a minimum size it can be, and at this point, it's rather sizable.  Libertarians just strike me as a little off-base and unrealistic when it comes to some of their policies.


business doesnt pay taxes anyways.  See that's the trick with government.  The company passes costs on to consumers.  They have to. 

If the governemt 'taxes corporations' what they are really doing is putting a tax on your income--if you buy the product, you pay the cost of the tax.  Ditto for sales tax--the sales tax is placed on the business; the business passes the cost on to you.


That's not how the world works. You should know better. Companies aren't suddenly going to lower prices because their taxes have gone down lol.



That's right! But they will increase wages when their taxes go up!


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
Bigbadwooof said:
That's not how the world works. You should know better. Companies aren't suddenly going to lower prices because their taxes have gone down lol.


That's right! But they will increase wages when their taxes go up!


Who said that, Mr Straw Man King???


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
hostileuniverse said:
Bigbadwooof said:
That's not how the world works. You should know better. Companies aren't suddenly going to lower prices because their taxes have gone down lol.


That's right! But they will increase wages when their taxes go up!


Who said that, Mr Straw Man King???


What? You've not heard the retarded calls to revert to the tax rates of 90% on the wealthiest among us? Or maybe I was dreaming that?

Are you retarded?


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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Ok, I think I should take's wooof's advice to put you on ignore.  You are truly the least intelligent poster in this forum.

The call for higher taxes has NOTHING to do with increased wages.  :picard:

It's to generate more revenue to spend on things for the middle class, such as schools, health care, infrastucure, and so on.


IGNORED!


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Ok, I think I should take's wooof's advice to put you on ignore.  You are truly the least intelligent poster in this forum.

The call for higher taxes has NOTHING to do with increased wages.  :picard:

It's to generate more revenue to spend on things for the middle class, such as schools, health care, infrastucure, and so on.


IGNORED!


Good job buddy, I'm sure all the left wing lunatics of the forum will be so proud of you :lol:

ETA: I think everyone can see he's just pissy over me calling him out on the NYT BS, such a typical lib, can't stand the truth so he sticks his head in the sand to IGNORE it! :lmafo:


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Edited by hostileuniverse (08/08/16 10:12 PM)

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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:justastonishing:

Glorious, Falcon, glorious!


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
:justastonishing:

Glorious, Falcon, glorious!


Yes, now there's two SJW's who can't handle the truth here, maybe you guys can start a club?


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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This place feels smarter already.  I can't even see any of his old posts.

:cheersyoufuck: :shroomhead: :leocheers:


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
Bigbadwooof said:
:justastonishing:

Glorious, Falcon, glorious!


Yes, now there's two SJW's who can't handle the truth here, maybe you guys can start a club?


A gay club?


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Ok, I think I should take's wooof's advice to put you on ignore.  You are truly the least intelligent poster in this forum.

The call for higher taxes has NOTHING to do with increased wages.  :picard:

It's to generate more revenue to spend on things for the middle class, such as schools, health care, infrastucure, and so on.


IGNORED!


I never gave you much credit for maturity but I didn't suspect you lacked spine.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Will Gary force someone to bake them a cake


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: BaronVonBud]
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BaronVonBud said:
Will Gary force someone to bake them a cake


Gary is all for using the government to force a cake bake.  He threw the LP position in the toilet on that issue.

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: fivepointer]
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fivepointer said:
Gary is all for using the government to force a cake bake.


Then he'll soon become a left-wing Political Discussion favorite.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
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luvdemshrooms said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Ok, I think I should take's wooof's advice to put you on ignore.  You are truly the least intelligent poster in this forum.

The call for higher taxes has NOTHING to do with increased wages.  :picard:

It's to generate more revenue to spend on things for the middle class, such as schools, health care, infrastucure, and so on.


IGNORED!


I never gave you much credit for maturity but I didn't suspect you lacked spine.


He doesn't. He decided to be a part of something bigger than himself. A movement. You should try it.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Haven't you figured it out yet?  NOTHING is bigger than himself.  :shrug:


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