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Political Labeling
    #2190397 - 12/19/03 02:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Of course this thread could be about any type of labeling; however let's limit the scope of this discussion to Liberal / Conservative (or right / left wing).

What is the purpose of coming up with a single name for an unrealted group of beliefs? Some have called me (and others) a Liberal as if I go to some website or have a handbook that tells me how or what to think. I am Conservative on some issues and Liberal on others. I am radically Liberally on some issues and slighlty Liberal on others. There is a full spectrum of stances.

No two people think quite alike. The danger of labeling someone is that now suddenly, you think that you know their beliefs. This precludes real inquiry and discussion and hence, the possibility of learning from another.


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Re: Political Labeling [Re: Swami]
    #2190469 - 12/19/03 02:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Labels are a handy starting point.

It's been my observation that those who most object to labels are those who generally are most aptly described by the labels they object to.


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Re: Political Labeling [Re: Swami]
    #2190571 - 12/19/03 03:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I know what you mean.

Some people on this board can't get it through their heads that if you're anti-Bush, it doesn't mean you're pro-Clinton. I, myself, consider both Republicans and Democrats right wing.






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Re: Political Labeling [Re: Swami]
    #2190710 - 12/19/03 03:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with the last paragraph.

But as luv said labels are a handy starting point. I see nothing wrong with them unless they are misused and an excuse for sloppy thinking.

There are quite a few types of chairs and when the majority of us say 'chair' we have something in mind. Upon examination we should, provided we are observant and willing to learn something, notice that each individual chair differs, in some degree, from every other chair.


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Re: Political Labeling [Re: Swami]
    #2192788 - 12/20/03 01:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Of course this thread could be about any type of labeling; however let's limit the scope of this discussion to Liberal / Conservative (or right / left wing).

What is the purpose of coming up with a single name for an unrealted group of beliefs? Some have called me (and others) a Liberal as if I go to some website or have a handbook that tells me how or what to think. I am Conservative on some issues and Liberal on others. I am radically Liberally on some issues and slighlty Liberal on others. There is a full spectrum of stances.

No two people think quite alike. The danger of labeling someone is that now suddenly, you think that you know their beliefs. This precludes real inquiry and discussion and hence, the possibility of learning from another.




That danger is also from self-labelling. If "I" think that "I" am a conservative, and conservatives beleive a certain way on a specific issue, "I" will try to feel as conservative about that issue as I can, to protect the group of "I"s that say we are conservatives. It's idiotic, really, most groups/labels are on the extreme side of the issue, and I don't think that I'm always in a "conservative"or a liberal" side of things. Each issue is different. I believe guns should be legal and readily available, but I think drugs should be to.


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