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OfflineSombie
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Would you support a revolution?
    #1797195 - 08/10/03 01:15 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

if there was a revolution in your country, a violent one, to overthrow your government or to make major changes in the government, would you support/join it?


I would.


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: Sombie]
    #1797202 - 08/10/03 01:21 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

No, but if there was a board game about it I would buy it.


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: Sombie]
    #1797214 - 08/10/03 01:29 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Increasing "gun-control" is making this an impossibility. I've heard people relate it to how Hitler (No; not YOU, "Baby_Hitler" .. I'd buy the board-game too!) started doing the same kind of thing right before he started killing millions of people.


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1797262 - 08/10/03 01:59 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Not even the best guns are any match against Napalm and Tear Gas.


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1797279 - 08/10/03 02:11 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

hell no, a violent revolution in canada? fuck off punks.


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1797296 - 08/10/03 02:22 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

fuck that peace and love :laugh:

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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1797433 - 08/10/03 04:27 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I've heard people relate it to how Hitler

Nah, that's a myth. Hitler took years to bother doing anything about gun control and even then it wasn't anything the weimar republic hadn't considered doing 10 years earlier. Gun control certainly wasn't a priority of Hitlers.


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: Sombie]
    #1797711 - 08/10/03 09:10 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

i would support a revolution if i thought that it had a chance of succeeding in replacing our current government with one that better fulfilled the role of government.

1) a revolution wouldn't have much of a chance of succeeding in replacing our current government.

2) even if it did, chances are very good that i'd be less satisfied with the new government than the old one.

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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1797718 - 08/10/03 09:16 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

silversoul7 said:
Not even the best guns are any match against Napalm and Tear Gas. 





...Actually, guns are quite effective against tear gas.  You can take someone out with a good rifle from much farther away than they can lob a gas grenade at you.  :wink:


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: Sombie]
    #1797892 - 08/10/03 10:53 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

It depends, if the revolution is to defeat Hitler, Hussein, Stalin, Castro.... YES!!!!!


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: Semilanceata]
    #1799129 - 08/10/03 06:29 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I would support a coup performed by the right people for the right reasons, but a bloody revolution in this day and age would probably be very unpleasant and not accomplish much.

But the internet is already giving tyranny a run for its money.

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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1799153 - 08/10/03 06:35 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

If we were to do anything like that right now, we would surely be attacked by another country in our moment of weakness. Things aren't completely hopeless right now either, so I think it would be relatively pointless. The chances that the new government would be an improvement are pretty slim too. I don't want America to end up like so many other 3rd world countries. It's a beautifully romantic idea, but I think a revolution would be very impractical.


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: Sev]
    #1799708 - 08/10/03 09:40 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

If you think you're guns, however many you have, would defend you against a military like your own...you're forgetting some of the picture  :wink:

Your rifle is nothing to an A-10 or attack chopper.

You argue about guns while you allow your government to own and use weapons of mass destruction.


And no, Sombie, I don't think I would support any violent revolution. The circumstances would have to be very extreme, at any rate.


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: trendal]
    #1799714 - 08/10/03 09:42 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Would you support a violent revolution in another country?


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1799727 - 08/10/03 09:45 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Again, it would have to be extreme circumstance before I would support violence.

If violence is being done to the people by the government, then the government has initiated force, and any violent revolution would be a self-defense action.


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: trendal]
    #1799820 - 08/10/03 10:11 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure the U.S. soldiers getting slowly picked off in Iraq wished you were right. It is not necessary to militarily defeat a power as in taking over it's resources or grabbing control of what it has. All that is needed is to make the cost of it's control too high to bear. A man can walk through wind and rain, yet mountains are turned into sand and disappear by their relentless actions.


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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: trendal]
    #1799834 - 08/10/03 10:18 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I would be pretty scared if I had to fight against the US military. I don't really know much about past revolutions and how they were successful or unsuccessful. Although, I disagree with most of what the US government does, I'm not exactly stockpiling my garage with various weapons. I guess I'm just an average citizen who is fed apathy all day long. The american lifestyle is still pretty enjoyable and euphoric. Why bother fighting when you can sit down and watch seinfeld for a full hour of laughs?

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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1799902 - 08/10/03 10:41 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Tear gas is not that big of a deal. Just don't panic and it's not that bad.

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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1800631 - 08/11/03 03:12 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Violent revolutions were always a mess. I'm more for Ghandi like peaceful protests. Look at the Palestinians - they would achieve their goals long ago if they stopped terrorist attacks and peacefully protest for their rights.

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Re: Would you support a revolution? [Re: zeronio]
    #1800948 - 08/11/03 07:42 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

zeronio said:
Violent revolutions were always a mess. I'm more for Ghandi like peaceful protests. Look at the Palestinians - they would achieve their goals long ago if they stopped terrorist attacks and peacefully protest for their rights.




Very good point.

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