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Ba'athists slip quietly back into control
    #1478134 - 04/21/03 03:35 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,940335,00.html

Ba'athists slip quietly back into control

They have quietly removed the pictures of Saddam Hussein from their sitting rooms, and reconfigured their memories to transform lives of privilege into tales of suffering. Less than two weeks after the collapse of the regime, thousands of members of the Arab Ba'ath Socialist party, the all too willing instrument of Saddam, are resuming their roles as the men and women who run Iraq.
Two thousand policemen - all cardholding party members - have put on the olive green, or the grey-and-white uniforms of traffic wardens, and returned to the streets of Baghdad at America's invitation.

Dozens of minders from the information ministry, who spied on foreign journalists for the security agencies, have returned to the Palestine Hotel where most reporters stay, offering their services as translators to unwitting new arrivals.

Seasoned bureaucrats at the oil ministry - including the brother of General Amer Saadi, the chemical weapons expert now in American custody - have been offered their jobs back by the US military. Feelers have also gone out to Saddam's health minister, despite past American charges that Iraqi hospitals stole medicine from the sick.

It has become increasingly apparent that Washington cannot restore governance to Baghdad without resorting to the party which for decades controlled every aspect of life under the regime.

It has equally become apparent that the Ba'ath party - whose neighbourhood spy cells were as feared as the state intelligence apparatus - will survive in some form, either through the appeal of its founding ideals, or through the rank opportunism of its millions of members.

"The coming bureaucracy will be overwhelmed by Ba'athists. They had loyalty to Saddam Hussein, and now they have loyalty to foreign invaders," said Wamidh Nadhmi, a political science professor at Baghdad University who broke with the Ba'ath in 1961, and is trying to organise a new political grouping.




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Re: Ba'athists slip quietly back into control [Re: Xlea321]
    #1478158 - 04/21/03 03:55 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It seems that after a week of liberation the US is reinstalling the Baath party supporters in sensitive positions. It doesn't surprise me since the US first put the Baath party in power and supported it for years even when using chemical weapons on civilians only to break of friendly relations when they threathened our oil interests in the region by invading Kuwait.

Great article, I cut and pasted it on another BB!


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Re: Ba'athists slip quietly back into control [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1478440 - 04/21/03 10:42 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Rail Gun, just out of curiosity who did you vote for in 2k?

And to the hawks, does this article translate very well to democracy?


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Re: Ba'athists slip quietly back into control [Re: Xlea321]
    #1479020 - 04/21/03 02:45 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Less than two weeks after the collapse of the regime, thousands of members of the Arab Ba'ath Socialist party, the all too willing instrument of Saddam, are resuming their roles as the men and women who run Iraq.




First, I do not support Bush nor his agression against Iraq. Second, that article shows how propaganda works. Like people during the time of the Soviet Union who were members of the communists party, many Iraqi's were members of Ba'ath party so that they could work and earn a living to support their families.

I am not defending Bush or the US Military. I believe that the agression against Iraq is a crime.


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Re: Ba'athists slip quietly back into control [Re: grib]
    #1479245 - 04/21/03 04:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yea, when the only choice is "join my party or die", it becomes a pretty easy decision.  Maybe some of these people were going to speak out against Saddam, hten they saw how nicely he treated those Kurds who did that :smile:

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Re: Ba'athists slip quietly back into control [Re: JohnnyRespect]
    #1479451 - 04/21/03 05:43 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

not even to mention the fact that to be involved in politics or law enforcement at all in iraq you basically had to be a member of the baath party. So we should just give these jobs to unexperienced people eh alpo?
it's like when we beat the nazis in WWII, you had to be a member of the Nazi party to get anywhere, even just to work at the post office.


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    #1479671 - 04/21/03 07:07 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Rail Gun, just out of curiosity who did you vote for in 2k?
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For president? Donald Duck. For governor? Mickey Mouse. They were write ins. :grin:


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