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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: GernBlanston]
    #1782272 - 08/05/03 05:26 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Good points. I agree with you to some extent. I still think you should educate yourself fully on an issue before joining an organized protest. Not knowing the facts and protesting a war would be like joining a union picket line without knowing any of the details. Of course you would have the percentage of the people that never believe war is just, so they would protest based on that fact alone.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: shakta]
    #1783721 - 08/06/03 01:56 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure if "educating yourself" does much good. I assume you think you "educated yourself"? And yet you were proved completly and utterly wrong and swallowed the lies about WMD completly.

Perhaps there's something to be said for the instincts of your friends. They were right after all.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: shakta]
    #1783871 - 08/06/03 02:43 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Everyone's ignorant to some extent.





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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: Xlea321]
    #1784339 - 08/06/03 09:26 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
I'm not sure if "educating yourself" does much good. I assume you think you "educated yourself"? And yet you were proved completly and utterly wrong and swallowed the lies about WMD completly.

Perhaps there's something to be said for the instincts of your friends. They were right after all.




Damn, I do believe you are the single densist person I have ever conversed with anywhere. Once again you do not know whether or not the weapons exist, just like the rest of us. I am not having this argument with you again.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: shakta]
    #1784527 - 08/06/03 11:32 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Could you try and make a post without the childish insults? Just a suggestion.




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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: shakta]
    #1785093 - 08/06/03 03:09 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

shakta said:
Quote:

Alex123 said:
I'm not sure if "educating yourself" does much good. I assume you think you "educated yourself"? And yet you were proved completly and utterly wrong and swallowed the lies about WMD completly.

Perhaps there's something to be said for the instincts of your friends. They were right after all.




Damn, I do believe you are the single densist person I have ever conversed with anywhere. Once again you do not know whether or not the weapons exist, just like the rest of us. I am not having this argument with you again.




Yep, you've just met Alpo. There are certain persons that are better ignored.

But not to lose sight of the offtopic, I think that people who protest without thinking seriously and critically about the issue they are either supporting or protesting are dangerous idiots who belong in a cage.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: shakta]
    #1785404 - 08/06/03 04:51 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Once again you do not know whether or not the weapons exist, just like the rest of us.

By "rest of us" who exactly do you mean? Here's the British ex-Foreign Secretary 3 months ago:

Mr Cook told Radio 4: "Plainly it did not have such weapons or they would have found them by now."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,966007,00.html


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: ]
    #1785423 - 08/06/03 04:57 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Yep, you've just met Alpo. There are certain persons that are better ignored.

Not you again  :rolleyes:

What's it gonna take for you to get over me? Did I really hurt you this bad? You've been nursing this bitterness for months now. Just let it go son, don't let it eat you up inside.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: Xlea321]
    #1785497 - 08/06/03 05:14 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
Once again you do not know whether or not the weapons exist, just like the rest of us.

By "rest of us" who exactly do you mean? Here's the British ex-Foreign Secretary 3 months ago:

Mr Cook told Radio 4: "Plainly it did not have such weapons or they would have found them by now."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,966007,00.html





So a quote be an ex-official from an article from the Guardian makes it fact? That is ludicrous.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: shakta]
    #1785542 - 08/06/03 05:26 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

No, you said "the rest of us" don't know if they exist. I simply pointed out that the british ex-foreign secretary is saying they don't exist.

Didn't even Rumsfield also let slip that he thought they'd been "destroyed" before the war? Do you think he just made that up for no reason?

Who exactly do you mean by "rest of us"? You and luv?


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: Xlea321]
    #1785552 - 08/06/03 05:29 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

How about 'the rest of us' means normal humans that can admit they do not know everything. I am not saying they are there, I am just saying that I do not know for sure.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: shakta]
    #1785569 - 08/06/03 05:34 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

So this is just some philosophical point about how no-one can ever really know anything "for sure"?

Yeah, I guess so.

Before I believe there are WMD in Iraq I really would need a little evidence tho.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: Xlea321]
    #1785590 - 08/06/03 05:38 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I am not asking you to believe they are there, just that there is a possibility that they are, just like there is a possibility that there aren't.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: Xlea321]
    #1786342 - 08/06/03 09:33 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

you want proof alex? Saddam had the wmd and he never documented destroying them. That is some evidence.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: Xlea321]
    #1786347 - 08/06/03 09:34 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Mr Cook told Radio 4: "Plainly it did not have such weapons or they would have found them by now."



Yet another person who doesn't realize the inability to find something is not proof it doesn't exist.

Is it the water over there Alpo?


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: Learyfan]
    #1786350 - 08/06/03 09:35 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

About your picture leary. They used that bullhorn when talking. Hes on a ranch so i think he can wear a cowboy hat. And AWOL during war? he didnt flee to canada. He joined the national gaurd were he learned and was able to fly some of the most complicated planes of the era.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: d33p]
    #1786390 - 08/06/03 09:49 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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d33p said:
About your picture leary. They used that bullhorn when talking. Hes on a ranch so i think he can wear a cowboy hat. And AWOL during war? he didnt flee to canada. He joined the national gaurd were he learned and was able to fly some of the most complicated planes of the era.




Read the link Edame posted. Some people think he was AWOL from the Guard when he was in for a whole year, and that it was a vast media conspiracy to cover it up. I find it ridiculous, but that is what they were talking about. If there were any truth to it Gore would have brought it up every chance he got.


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Re: Sensational Memos Lift the Lid on News Control [Re: shakta]
    #1787086 - 08/07/03 01:57 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I am not asking you to believe they are there, just that there is a possibility that they are, just like there is a possibility that there aren't.

Like UFO's and the Loch Ness monster?

Don't you need at least some evidence for believing something? If George Bush said there are dragons in your back garden but "we can't find them" would you believe him?


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