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9/11: The Smoking Gun?
    #1576851 - 05/25/03 09:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Not quite. But damning nonetheless. The following quote can be found on p63 of the PNAC report entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses[PDF]:

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Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event ? like a new Pearl Harbor[sic]...




Where "revolutionary change" is the topic of the PNAC website and the rest of the report.

It looks like if Bush didnt know, then at the very least Cheney, Rummy and Wolfy and other signers on the Statement of Principles page knew. They might just as well have used the word "Reichstag fire" instead of "Pearl Harbour". In similar, more mundane scenarios, such as purchasing a $1M life insurance policy on someone that gets murdered the following week, the existence of such a motive would be grounds for issuing an arrest warrant.


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1576942 - 05/25/03 10:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I totally agree with everything you've said.




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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1577053 - 05/25/03 11:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Its all right there in front of everybody yet they turn away to watch "Friends"


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Strumpling]
    #1577188 - 05/25/03 11:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It was right there in front of Bush to.




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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1577204 - 05/25/03 11:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yet he turns away to avoid punishment from above


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1577386 - 05/26/03 01:09 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

In similar, more mundane scenarios, such as purchasing a $1M life insurance policy on someone that gets murdered the following week, the existence of such a motive would be grounds for issuing an arrest warrant.

Good point.  And with the packing of conservative judges, who's going to issue any warrant?

Bush Admin's Conservative Judiciary

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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: hongomon]
    #1577625 - 05/26/03 03:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Xibalba]
    #1577752 - 05/26/03 04:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

its just going to keep happening until somehow somebody does something - the problem is, every "something" that "somebody" tries is turned against their cause very quickly and effectively..

its like humor is the only weapon


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1577819 - 05/26/03 06:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Luvdemshrooms thinks you are all crazy. All those crazy conspiracy theories. You all should get a life.


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: ]
    #1579434 - 05/26/03 09:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

They ARE all crazy....Be lucky you all live in countries where insanity is legal...


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1584204 - 05/28/03 08:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Luvdemshrooms thinks you are all crazy. All those crazy conspiracy theories. You all should get a life.

They ARE all crazy....Be lucky you all live in countries where insanity is legal...




As usual, "your crazy" is the best the right-wing nutfruits can do.



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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1584305 - 05/28/03 09:56 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I wonder if it would be better if we just called them Facist Nazi's?


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1585002 - 05/28/03 02:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Indeed. Because you MUST be a facist nazi to believe that even President Bush isnt so inherently evil that he's going to kill thousands of his own citizens and condemn the economy to years of tortured hell for the sake of a few approval points...

Sieg Heil?


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1585375 - 05/28/03 05:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Indeed. Because you MUST be a facist nazi to believe that even President Bush isnt so inherently evil that he's going to kill thousands of his own citizens and condemn the economy to years of tortured hell for the sake of a few approval points...


It's not like there isn't precedent for this kind of behaviour from a world leader....Churchill knew about the London bombing before it came, Roosevelt knew about the Pearl Harbour attacks before they happened and Bush knew about 9/11.


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Rono]
    #1585616 - 05/28/03 06:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Churchill let them bomb London so that save lives in the long run and win the war against Nazi Germany. No comparison Whatsoever.

Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor? Thats a new one by me...How do you figure? I've heard the whole "America MADE Japan Attack" arguement. And there's evidence that the Navy in Pearl Harbor had some advance warning, (A few hours) of the attack. But I've never heard that Roosevelt knew. Prove it?

Why, why, why, would Bush do such a thing? Honestly, I go through EVERY single arguement you people make around here, and NONE of them make sense....


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1585620 - 05/28/03 06:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I go through EVERY single arguement you people make around here, and NONE of them make sense.... 




Figures. :smirk:


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1585639 - 05/28/03 06:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Figures....Right. But really, run it by me again. What's Bush's justification for 9/11?
His popularity? Hmph...Its almost down to pre-9/11.

Oh, he wanted a pretext to invade Iraq for oil money? Oh...wait...The Economy has lost more in the last 2 years than we'll possibly recoup in Iraq.

What are the others....

Oh! Right! ISRAEL did it! So we would crack down on the Palesin...Oh...Wait...The new peace plan favors Palestine? Drat...Another argument down the tubes...



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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1585640 - 05/28/03 06:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Why, why, why, would Bush do such a thing?


I'm not going to say the same things that have already been said a bazillion times...either you believe he knew or you don't...there is evidence and there is motive...at the very least he should be investigated...at the very worst he should be shot for treason.


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1585641 - 05/28/03 06:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Why, why, why, would Bush do such a thing? Honestly, I go through EVERY single arguement you people make around here, and NONE of them make sense....




Remember the "crazy conspiracy theory of the Looney Left"?? Well the "conspiracy" is now by in large the govt; and they have answered your question themselves, in the PNAC references in the original post.


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Re: 9/11: The Smoking Gun? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1585650 - 05/28/03 06:30 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Right! The SAME thing has been said numerous times, and NONE of it makes any sense...You silly America-Haters...


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