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9/11: Ignorance or Complicity?
    #1434216 - 04/06/03 09:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Did Bush Know?

I'm willing to accept the idea that it was ignorance, not complicity, but either way, the administration bears some responsibility for what happened.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1434264 - 04/06/03 10:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You mean the Clinton administration? I agree. They really should have done something when Bin Laden bombed the basement of the WTC 9 years ago or whenever.


Do you propose there should have been a preemptive "war on terror"?


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1434274 - 04/06/03 10:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

In my opinion complicit..without a doubt.

Do a search on Mike Vreeland...that should shed some light or at least raise a few eyebrows...


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: Viveka]
    #1434280 - 04/06/03 10:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It is Bush's duty to protect his country, and on 9/11 he failed.

A true hero would have defeated the terrorists.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: pattern]
    #1434285 - 04/06/03 10:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

He failed and now he wants payback.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: downforpot]
    #1434296 - 04/06/03 10:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Bush knew planes were gonna run into the trade towers for sure! I don't know why he would be too lazy to try and protect innocent lives. When that guy wispered into his ear about the news to Bush in florida, Bush was like- "Oh fuck, I forgot the terrorist attack on the Trade center was today, shit!"


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: Viveka]
    #1434348 - 04/06/03 10:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Do you propose there should have been a preemptive "war on terror"?



There shouldn't be a "war on terror" to begin with because terrorism is a threat that every president has to deal with. The war on terror, like the war on drugs, isn't really a war because it's not fighting against a country, but rather a bunch of independent organizations.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1434366 - 04/06/03 10:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe Bush knew but there's no way to prove it unless you're a high ranking intelligence officer with access to those documents. It's pointless to speculate on it.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1434386 - 04/06/03 10:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I agree with Rail Gun.

After watching the school visit with Bush on 9/11, it looked like he was getting really bored and sleepy. If he knew there was an attack, he would have been very tense.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: pattern]
    #1434392 - 04/06/03 10:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think Bush himself knew there was going to an attack, but one or more members of his administration might have known.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1434411 - 04/06/03 11:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Rumsfeld! That guy has evil written all over him.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1434414 - 04/06/03 11:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

maybe he let it happen so he could finish what his pa did not


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1434431 - 04/06/03 11:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

If it is all a conspiricy then that would have been the time to swoop into the middle east and tie Iraq into it while saving thousands of American lives. He could have been a hero and acheived any ME /oil goals all at the same time.

I think that they had the info but didn't put 2+2 together. Some peple obviously knew something was brewing and even tried to raise a flag but where ignored (an attack on America? HAHA get real.) I think there are only a few agencies and dept. that are able to keep secrets effectively and the white house is not one of them. Shit they can't even keep a couple of sluts quiet, or land deals. The two parties can't even effectivly spy on eachother without getting caught.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1434478 - 04/06/03 11:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I saw something like this coming YEARS before GWB even ran for president. When the book Endless Enemies first came out, I read it and agreed with it's assesment. It's a shame more people didn't.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1434559 - 04/06/03 11:40 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

maybe they knew an attack was coming, but they figured "Hey, we're the U.S.FUCKING A here, we spend $300+ billion a year on defense, IF they have the balls, let them attack.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: DrubuShrume]
    #1434577 - 04/06/03 11:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe it is a Rudy Giuliani conspiracy to cement his place in history as a hero of the people.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1434586 - 04/06/03 11:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Maybe it is a Rudy Giuliani conspiracy to cement his place in history as a hero of the people.



Ya, people forget how he was seen as a scumbag before 9/11.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1434592 - 04/06/03 11:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Rudy Giuliani will be the next prezident.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: Murex]
    #1434595 - 04/06/03 11:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Glad we finaly figured that out.


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Re: 9/11: Ignorance or Complicity? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1434751 - 04/07/03 12:24 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

What you guys don't know is that Bush was behind the attack on 9/11. It' the whole new world order. They love terrorism. Bush's family is friends with bin laden. Every time there's a terrorist attack they get to pass another law giving up our liberties.


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