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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: I AM SWIM]
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terence mckenna got brain cancer cuz of all the radiation from that giant ass satellite dish he kept above his house in hawaii


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Envix]
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I actually just read an interview with him in some magazine that was done as he was dying.  It was an online .PDF file of a magazine with lots of interviews.  I think I came across it via Sasha Shulgin research I was doing.  Regardless, the interviewer asked him this exact question.  And it was obviously something Terence had considered himself because he stated that he asked the doctors about the weed having done it or the mushrooms, etc. 

He said that their response was a laugh and a "Absolutely not."  However, he also said he questioned whether their info was accurate or not because they also dismissed the idea that the horrible migraines he had been getting for years could be related to it either.  He said something along the lines of "Anyone who was getting the migraines that I was would have a hard time believing they weren't somehow related."


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Noviseer]
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: jaggaboo]
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:uh:


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Adamist]
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bob marly had a skin cancer on his toe and refused to get the toe removed because of his rasta religion, then it spread and he dieded :frown:


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Zen Peddler]
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bluemeanie said:
I remember reading somewhere that Bob Marley's brain tumor was assisted in its development by the amount of weed he was smoking effecting his immune system and its ability to attack tumors/growths, but I dont know if this was reputable info or not.
Certainly Terrance was a fantastic person and influence in modern philosophy (archaic revival!!).
It is food for thought that he did die of a rare type of brain cancer, when Aldous Huxley (who used LSD and various cacti alkaloids) and Timothy Leary also died of similar incipid cancers.



Bru, it wasn't a brain tumor in Bob Marley, he had it in is big toe, and he refused to get it amputated.

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Shpongle1]
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Well maybe smoking cannabis might cause cancer cells to appear, but taking the oil can result in diminishing cancer cells!!
Check this video out!!
http://www.swat-hq.com/video_cure.html

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: mudboy]
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Cancer and heart failure and just what people in the US die from.  Our medicine's good enough that there isn't much else that kills us, at least not in the same great numbers.  See how low down everything else is?: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: mundane]
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I don't know all that much about McKenna, but I would think it was either from obscure chemicals/drugs (don't know if he took them, just sayin') or possibly, did he smoke cigs? That could be it

Other than that though, I doubt mushrooms caused it or DMT

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: VTtripper]
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My grandmother (dads side) died of old age at 86.  My grandmother was the mother of the heroes who fought WW2, she received ground breaking new medical treatment to remove cancer from her left eye and optical nerve and also part of the bone's of her skull in late 1940's.  I remember as a child being asked to place my fingers in the depressions in grandma's head and being told its a miracle shes alive, I also remember getting the wonderful feeling that life and people are very very precious from the story's I was told back then.

Grandmothers youngest son also lost an eye when he was a young child yet hes still alive and in his 90s.

My dad died of brain cancer in early 1990's aged 71, cerebral gloma I think it was named as that had done him in.  Then a few years later the middle son of the three kids my grandmother birthed died of the same thing.

Am I scared of dieing of brain cancer? you bet I am.  Do I think psychedelics might cause it if it happened? naaa its all in the genes.  None of these people I'm talking about here ever used psychedelics (I dont think... pity).  dont worry.

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: VTtripper]
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Terence was an advocate of taking natural drugs that have been used for a long time by native spiritual communities.  I remember hearing him talk down on Ketamine and MDMA based on the fact that we really have no information about long term use of the chemicals.  Things like ayahuasca, cannabis, mushrooms, salvia, peyote, he advocated using because they've been taken for a long time and the communities that use them don't show negative effects from the use such a blindness, sterility, above average instances of mental disorder, premature birth etc...

So I don't think his tumor would have anything to do with his use of "obscure chemicals/drugs."  I haven't read through this thread in a while but I'm pretty sure someone mentioned the huge satellite dish on top of his house being a more likely culprit than his drug use :lol:.. and I'd have to agree with that.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Shpongle1]
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7 year old thread.... back from the dead!

Anyway, it is (and always has been) RIDICULOUS to speculate on what may have caused terence mckenna's, or any other celebrities' brain tumors!

None of us is a doctor, and none of us had any idea what any of these people's lives were truly like!

An equally likely scenario:

Terence Mckenna was walking around his house in hawaii and was struck by gamma radiation emitted from a supernova several hundred light years away. The radiation damaged his DNA and caused some brain cells to become malignant.


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
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His soul left his body into the next dimension, we only understand it as Mckenna's death.

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The brain makes it...DMT [Re: Infrared]
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It would be inaccurate to say something cannot be bad for the brain if the brain makes it...example: serotonin is naturally released in the brain however an overincrease by the use of SSRI's causes the possibly fatal serotonin sydrome or serotonin toxicity.  I.E. DMT could possibly be toxic however there is no scientific evidence supporting this idea.  But all things can be toxic was you reach the right concentration.  If there were ever going to be someone to find the toxic level of DMT it would be Terrance Mckenna....or maybe Snoop Dogg :smirk:

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: whit_ster]
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Ugh. I just watched Bob Marleys Documentary. His cancer came from a rare infection he contracted from a cut on his foot. The guy never wore shoes so you can imagine how something like that may of happened. And Idk about Mckenna. His death was a great loss though. I occasionally think of what he would talk about and how he would feel to see DMT breakout into the mainstream as it has today.


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: whit_ster]
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thers others that have lived over 90 years + with cannabis use daily , brain tumors are rare cases and could be causes of maybe other research or unnatural drug use he have done but who knows really , we shouldnt be afraid of cannabis cuz there are actual studies that it may or will reduce cancer tumors.

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Guesstimate]
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In some of his lectures he would discuss psilocybin as a treatment for cluster headaches, as he was a long time cluster headache sufferer. I'm no neurosurgeon, but if, for years you suffered through worse than migraine headaches, it may be a precursor to something like a brain tumor.
Just speculating.
Either way, he served his purpose, living his messianic mission, and was called to return home when the job was done.

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: xoanon]
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Dude did a lot of drugs.

I tend to think this is the reason coupled with chronic marijuana smoking and a bad diet.

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: xoanon]
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xoanon said:
Either way, he served his purpose, living his messianic mission, and was called to return home when the job was done.


I'm disappointed we didn't get to see the wiser, more articulate, elderly terence mckenna.

What if he had decided to write some fiction?? (He may have, but it was all lost in an awful fire)


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Kon-nect-id]
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Kon-nect-id said:
Dude did a lot of drugs.

I tend to think this is the reason coupled with chronic marijuana smoking and a bad diet.


thanks, Dr. Kon-nect-id


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