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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Eddeee]
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Eddeee said:
Terrance Mckeena
Timothy Leary
Carlos Castaneda

All these guys died of brain tumors hmmmm wonder if there is a connection


They're all males?


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: FruitOfLife]
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and I believe that statistically speaking there is a higher incident of brain cancer in men than there is in woman.


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Eddeee]
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Yeah I know 3 guys who have had brain tumors, they survided :smile:

And only one woman who has had a brain tumor.


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: FruitOfLife]
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Did they do psychedelics as well?


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Eddeee]
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Only one guy has previously done psychs but he had his tumor when he was like 7.

I was just pointing out that males seem to have them more often than women... Or it could just be from my experience


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: FruitOfLife]
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I know several males my self that have had Primary brain tumors both died and both did  engage in heavy use of psychedelics. So there might quite be possibly a link to those drugs and brain cancers. Im just saying seems plausible.


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Eddeee]
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Eddeee said:
Terrance Mckeena
Timothy Leary
Carlos Castaneda

All these guys died of brain tumors hmmmm wonder if there is a connection


No.

Timothy Leary died from prostate cancer.

Second, there is no tangible proof to this date that psychedelics triggers cancer. If medicine can't prove it, we won't be able to either.

What I'm trying to say is, it's just speculations.

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So there might quite be possibly a link to those drugs and brain cancers.


So random.
That's just a wild guess.

It's like saying Coca cola triggers cancer.

Not mentioning all the people using psychedelics in the world, if you compare it to brain tumor statistics, it is most unlikely.

Edited by chris171184 (01/30/13 01:43 AM)

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Eddeee]
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Don't want to sound like tinfoil hat guy but what if that might have been assassination? Terence Mckenna is dangerous person for government which does everything to keep away psychedelics from society. Potent carcinogens can be secretly be administered, CIA has in possession cancer gun.
Moreover Terence library also was burned. His fellow Rupert Sheldrake was once stabbed in leg during assassination attempt.
I doubt Terence would use something dangerous and he told that he did drugs rarely. My parents are probably older, drink and smoke cigarettes - still alive. Unless cancer might have been genetic.


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Envix]
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Envix said:
terence mckenna got brain cancer cuz of all the radiation from that giant ass satellite dish he kept above his house in hawaii



Close.


I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but...

I believe Terence died from his constant use of his bulky portable phone. Back then, who knows what kind of deadly frequencies those monster things put out. Terence was known to be on his phone all the time.



but...to feed the whole conspiracy theories people are spouting...lets not forget Terence died pretty much right before 911.

Maybe the government did 1 last "sweep" where they killed anyone who could possibly trigger a revolution after 911.


that's assuming, of course, if 911 was an inside job.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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My brother in law had brain cancer and urethra cancer. They sucked the brain tumor out of his head via his nose, and his penis no longer has a hole. He urinates via a tube coming from his abdomen. His brain cancer is back and he's not long for this world - at age 50. He NEVER used drugs of any kind in his life and he never uses a cell phone.

Mother nature isn't perfect, and everything that is born will eventually die from something sooner or later. That's just how it goes.

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Universe]
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The whole thing about the government assassinating people isn't all that left field. I don't think they took terrence's ability to change people seriously enough to assassinate him but in a lot of cases they will straight up off people. Its a fine line in those sorts of considerations between a realistic appreciation for what lengths these people are willing to take to maintain control and irrational conjecture. In this case it seems more likely that Terrence died from his lifestyle, maybe a genetic predisposition to cancer aggravated by his lifestyle choices

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: saenchai]
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I don't think Terence Mckenna was assassinated, not because I don't think that sort of thing happens, but he just was not a threat to those in power: a small minority knew about him, a smaller minority gave his ideas any sort of fair listen and a smaller minority agreed with him: most people then and now think hes a cook, and honestly he de-legitimizes the counter culture more so than legitimizes it so in a backwards way he was helping 'the man' unintentionally poor dude


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Ezuma]
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McKenna almost completely stopped ingesting all Entheogens, (except Marijuana), in 1988 -- 12 years before he was diagnosed with brain cancer.


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: endogenous]
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endogenous said:
McKenna almost completely stopped ingesting all Entheogens, (except Marijuana), in 1988 -- 12 years before he was diagnosed with brain cancer.



I don't believe Dennis when he says that. I smelled a little bit of bitterness from Dennis's whole account of the situation.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Edited by saenchai (05/13/15 04:47 AM)

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: saenchai]
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Bad trip in 1988 from mushrooms.

he said the trip "lacked all meaning"


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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I wonder if anyone will ever open up about what actually happened in that Mushroom experience.


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: endogenous]
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Yeah I think what killed him could have been many things but not shrooms or dmt.

For example he mentioned rolling bombers a lot. That means he rolled a joint, and he smoked hash and not marijuana because that was basically loads of pesticides and shit in it. But to roll a hash joint you need tobacco, and that's where the problem arises. Tobacco companiess throw in hundreds of toxic chemicals in their tobacco to make the tobacco burn longer. Tobacco itself as a plant is beneficial to the body apparently. But obv smoking a cigarrete with all that shit would not be. American Spirit the Non Additive one is an example of an organic tobacco batch. And he smoked A LOT every day so that could have and would have definitely affected his body.

I plan to smoke hash in pipes but use hemp wick to heat the hash. Basically heat the hemp wick with a lighter (wrap the wick around the lighter, it sticks cus of the beeswax), let the flame live for a bit then blow it out so the hempwick is red, then stick it into the pipe (starting from the outer to in). Lighters burn the hash at like 2000* so a lot of the thc is lost before you can absorb it into the body.

:smile:

Is there anyone that knew Terence in person capable of letting us know if he smoked his joints with tobacco?

Edited by CeLegacy (12/25/15 09:30 PM)

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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: CeLegacy]
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Terence talked about this and the doctors say what it the cause of the kind of aggressive brain ancer he had what because of his genetic makeup and they even laughed at the fact he had asked them if it was indeed the drugs


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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: alfonseelrick]
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alfonseelrick said:
Terence talked about this and the doctors say what it the cause of the kind of aggressive brain ancer he had what because of his genetic makeup and they even laughed at the fact he had asked them if it was indeed the drugs


here was the video I was talking about! Everyone should check this out

Go to 5:07 and it'll start showing you it

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