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Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE and TIME***
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Ok, a date has been arranged for the Dennis McKenna live chat @ the shroomery.
Although he has given us this date, it may have to be re-scheduled due to his hectic schedule.

Friday, October 25, 9 PM CST

You should have a IRC program ( www.mirc.com or similar) or you can connect through the Java client to the shroomery chat server,
http://www.shroomery.org/chatandmessageboards.html , under Chat Room.

The chat will be on the channel #mckennachat .

All users who would like to ask questions, post here.
(Users who posted questions in previous thread need not post again).

For any comments on this event, post here


Good luck


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"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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not a question but a comment...


NEATO!!!


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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My no. 6 Question:

Gottfried Benn in his "Provoziertes Leben" essay, states that "God is a substance, a drug!". Apart from your known scientific approach to those substances, do you also feel them as sacred, as a medium to understand and communicate with God, whoever or whatever is He?

btw DreaMaTrix, do you think it will be polite to ask him which is his correlation -if any- with Scientology?

Kykeon
athens, greece


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: kykeon]
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:grin:                      :grin:

Edited by Hermes_br (09/08/02 08:57 AM)

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: kykeon]
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Kykeon

>?do you think it will be polite to ask him which is his correlation -if any- with Scientology??

You know, just because you are some kind of a control freak wussy doesn?t mean that Dennis is a wussy.

Leaf

Edited by leafblowerz (09/08/02 05:01 PM)

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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Who is Dennis McKenna ?


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: leafblowerz]
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i just love your method of sending a post with filthy language and then edit and hide it... Hermes also took his words back, so your method is also known to others :wink: lol

btw, where are YOUR questions to McKenna?

i am not gonna reply to you ever again, for its obvious you want this thread also to be locked, perhaps you dont want the whole chat to take place and thats why you react like that.

LETS SAY THAT YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU CAN SMILE NOW. lol  :grin:

thanx, you gave me a gr8 lesson :wink: lol  :grin:

Kykeon  :grin:
athens, greece   


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: KoOs]
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just a guess but, son of terrance mckenna>?


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: kykeon]
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kykeon, I edited my post first and it has nothing to do with Leaf.

And I did it because that reply was for you, and I thought you already have read it, considering it's a sticky post.
(no offense !)

best wishes.

Edited by Hermes_br (09/09/02 08:34 AM)

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: goatywoaty]
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Brother



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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: KoOs]
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text taken from HRI - Dennis McKenna is the co-founder of the Heffter Research Institute.

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Dr. Dennis J. McKenna
Co-founder, Director of Ethnopharmacology.

For the last twenty-five years, Dennis McKenna has pursued the interdisciplinary study of ethnopharmacology and plant hallucinogens. He is co-author, with his brother Terence, of The Invisible Landscape: Mind, Hallucinogens, and the I Ching (Seabury Press, 1975; Citadel Press, 1991), a philosophical and metaphysical exploration of the ontological implications of psychedelic drugs which resulted from the two brothers' early investigations of Amazonian hallucinogens in 1971. He received his doctorate in 1984 from the University of British Columbia. His doctoral research focused on ethnopharmacological investigations of the botany, chemistry, and pharmacology of ayahuasca and oo-koo-he, two orally-active tryptamine-based hallucinogens used by indigenous peoples in the Northwest Amazon. Following the completion of his doctorate, Dr. McKenna received post-doctoral research fellowships in the Laboratory of Clinical Pharmacology, National Institute of Mental Health, and in the Department of Neurology, Stanford University School of Medicine. In 1990, he joined Shaman Pharmaceuticals as Director of Ethnopharmacology. He relocated to Minnesota in 1993 to join the Aveda Corporation, a manufacturer of natural cosmetic products, as Senior Research Pharmacognosist. He currently works as a scientific consultant to clients in the herbal, nutritional, and pharmaceutical industries. Together with two colleagues in the natural products industry, he incorporated the non-profit Institute for Natural Products Research (INPR) in October 1998 to promote research and scientific education with respect to botanical medicines and other natural medicines. Dr. Mckenna serves on the Advisory Board of the American Botanical Council, and on the Editorial Board of Phytomedicine, International Journal of Phytotherapy and Phytopharmacology. He is a founding board member and Vice-President of the Heffter Research Institute, a non-profit scientific organization dedicated to the investigation of therapeutic applications for psychedelic plants and compounds. He has also served as board member and Research Advisor to Botanical Dimensions, a non-profit organization dedicated to the investigation of ethnomedically significant plants. He was a primary organizer and key scientific collaborator for the Hoasca Project, an international biomedical study of Hoasca, a psychoactive drink used in ritual contexts by indigenous peoples and syncretic religious groups in Brasil. He has conducted extensive ethnobotanical fieldwork in the Peruvian, Colombian, and Brasilian Amazon. He has served as invited speaker at numerous scientific congresses, seminars, and symposia. Dr. McKenna is author or co-author of over 35 scientific papers in peer-reviewed journals. His publications have appeared in the Journal of Ethnopharmacology, European Journal of Pharmacology, Brain Research, Journal of Neuroscience, Journal of Neurochemistry, Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, Economic Botany, and elsewhere.

ENDQUOTE

Kykeon
athens, greece


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: goatywoaty]
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In reply to:
just a guess but, son of terrance mckenna>?


Wrong...


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: Fliquid]
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http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/mckenna_dennis.shtml

>>>Wrong...

okay. i have fish for ears.



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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: kykeon]
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Kykeon

I edited "pussy" to "wussy" in my post so as not to send you to bed crying.

I guess it didn't work.

No, I will not participate in a chat moderated in such a heavy handed manner so I will not be presenting any questions in this thread.

This control freak mentality you have is too similar to that of the "drug warriors". I believe that becoming more like them is not beneficial to drug policy reform.

So, you go right ahead and put on your knee boots and goose step to your cause. I'll have not part of it.

Do yourself and Asa Hutchinson real proud by squelching discussions you may find UNCOMFORTABLE.

Leaf

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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GM DreaMatrix! :smile:

I am keeping my promise. :grin: :grin: :grin:

Kykeon
athens, greece 


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: goatywoaty]
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Cool, be glad they aint sharks...  :grin: 


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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btw DreaMaTrix, who is going to choose the participants, how many of them will be and which are the criteria of choosing?

:smile:

Kykeon
athens, greece 


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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i dont know that much about dennis but i know what i would ask terrance and maybe dennis could answer this but i would want to know if he thinks the dmt experience(world) could be real, a window to lets say a different dimension, or if it just a hallucination, a product of the mind?


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There is such emotion in the distortion.

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: 1stimer]
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DMT is also produced by our brains during the R.E.M. phase while sleeping...

:wink:

Kykeon
athens, greece 


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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I to have two questions i would like to ask to Dr. McKenna.

* How do you see the future about the use of psychedelics (e.g. Law, new psychedelics, evolution of psychedelics)

* And how did psychedelics changed your live.


These are the two questions i would like to ask.
And it would be a great honnor to ask him this.


Paddo

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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What relationship do you, Mr McKenna, find between the states of consciousness brought on by psychedelic plants and fungi, and the evolution from a chimp to a thinking and god worshipping homo sapiens?


as a side note, I found it amusing, being From Colombia and all, to find that only two books came up on a campus' library database through the key word COlombia.
100 years of solitude by Marquez, and True Hallucinations. A book that marked my awakening into the tryptamine filled world. :grin: 

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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Hi,

My question is:

Where do you see the legal status of Marijuana, Mescaline, Psilocybin, and Salvia in: 5, 10, and 20 years in the United States?

Thank you,

reite


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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Hearing your brother on the Art Bell show for the first time really impacted my life. It even impacted Art Bell's life.. but I just want to say that I have turned my attention towards Terence whenever I have had difficult moments in life...in fact one time I thought I wasnt going to make it while sampling a strong dose ..( the types of dosages Terence recommended) ...and I centered all my consciousness around Terence and the thought of him made me so happy that I was able to ride out the apocalyptic cognitive hallucinations I was experiencing.....

I know that a lot of us listen to Terence's voice by downloading from filesharing programs like Kaza....ect....I think this is important because Terence sort of talked about the internet in an abstract sense ...and I think it is appropriate to preserve his presence on it ...I leave as many files as I can find on my computer so others can experience the penetrating power of Terence....My question is ...is there anything you can do to put more recorded material out there.....that is files that would be available under a filesharing search, " Terence McKenna....."some of us are able to face tremendous obstacles by the light and encouragement preserved within the tonality of his voice.......lastly I just want you to know that the shroomery has a spirit that is unllike any other mycological forum on the internet
and I would like to emphasize that I think that spirit rests with this site because we need it the most ...we are the ones taking the risks.....a lot of us can not afford the time and money required to go to college and have the opportunity to study mycology under the shield of legality.....and mycological technique is evolving at and ever-increasing pace because of the novel appearance of virtual and interactive depositories of information that reveal themselves in the form of The Shroomery.

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: REPLICON_TRON]
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In reply to:
and mycological technique is evolving at and ever-increasing pace because of the novel appearance of virtual and interactive depositories of information that reveal themselves in the form of The Shroomery.



WOW, that is the coolest thing I have read for a while!
Thanx for posting a question.

Good luck


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"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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High DreaMatrix,

A few questions from my side (for the chat):
1. How do you see love and do you think humans are suited for 1 to 1 relations?
2. How do you see Peace? Does it only excist because of the opposits excist?
3. If you are in Holland would you come around and drink, eat and chat some with my wife and me?
4. I have big troubles to bring the synch under words. I know it is around all the time, and sometimes I can make use of it. But I can not seem to get a real grip on it. Do you encounter the synch? And how do you interact with it???
5. Did you know about the FSRE  :wink:

Are we allowed to enter the chat anyway or is it allready filled with the happy few?????
   


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: MeneerCactus]
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Everybody is allowed to the chat Eric.

Only 3 weeks to go until we make this happen.



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"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: Learyfan]
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i dont think ill be around that day.
but was denis also into drugs and talking to elves?
and for that matter. whats the point of his visit?
to chat with internet sluts about drugs? or about his brother?
i mean, i cant think of an intelligent question for a man ive never heard of, he may be terrance mckennas bro,
but for all we know his thing might be kites, or furrys, or chicks n' horses. wait, thats my thing, what am i saying?


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: Mitchnast]
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In reply to:
and for that matter. whats the point of his visit?
to chat with internet sluts about drugs?



Perhaps your right, maybe I was naive to think that a site with over 16,000 members, some maybe interested in chatting with a man who has spent most of his academic career researching tryptamines.
I thought this core member of M.A.P.S. could share his knowledge and guidance with us, I was wrong in assuming you might be interested.

So, lets get back to what you think we are about, posting pics of innane subject, the PF tek and the ultimate question in the psilocybin ingesters agenda, 'where is the best place to store a spore syringe'

Excuse me for trying, thanks for pointing out my misdirection.
I can email Dennis any question I may have.

Good luck on your quest, whatever it may be.


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"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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sorry, i speant the night grinding up tryptamines and i think it adled my mind.
i thought i was being cute, i know i know, hes cool.


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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i have 3 Qs...

Q: Are there new Entheogens yet to be discovered?
...Have any already been discovered but not made known to the general public?

Q: Have new organic sources of DMT been discovered recently?

Q: What adivice could you give an artist who is working to manifest the Psychedelic Vision?

somtin like dat...

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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i am very excited about this upcoming chat. i have tons of questions, but the most important ones go something like this, in order of most importance:

With 2012 coming ever closer, what are your thoughts on human future in general and the collapse of the 'timewave one' function in particular? Are we all doomed?

Also, I seem to be the only one who is bothered by the fact that DMT is illegal to possess and produce in this and most countries, yet we are all doing these very things right now in our own brains. Why hasn't the blatent silliness of this law been challenged in some court somewhere? I'm not going to have to it all by myself am I?

Finally, do you have any experience with Dr. John C. Lilly and/or his flotation tanks? Have you personally experienced the Restricted Environmental Stimulation his tanks provide? If not, then I highly recommend a few hours of sensory deprivation. The state is extremely conducive to inner exploration, more so than all the LSD and ketamine Lilly ever did all put together. It's really something unique.

-m


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: paddo]
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Where could i just sit and watch the typing and questions and answers. Can you also post the copyed chat with him, on shroomery?


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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My question:

Do you think tryptamine based psychedelic drugs like psilocybin, LSD and DMT have any use in the field of psychiatry? Why or why not? Do you feel that the failure of psychedelics in the 50's and 60's treatment centres was a result of the drugs, or because of the environment and manner in which they were administered?


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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I have a similar question.

Q: Speaking from a biochemical stance, do you feel that ergoline psychedelics like LSD carry a greater risk to psychiatric patients with psychotic disorders than "truer" tryptamines like AMT, DPT, DMT? Or is the opposite possible, that LSD's basis in ergoline could provide a potential homeopathic treatment that can slow or even cure psychosis?

Q: Fractal imagery is mathmatical, and fractal patterns are often used to predict events within closed systems. Fractal imagery is a common theme with LSD. Some say, though, that LSD's fractal edge doesn't stop at visual hallucinations, rather it can govern all perception. Perception of sound, touch, taste, smell, even thought. Assuming the universe is the only truly closed system we are aware of, could LSD's perceptual state be a numerological link to a greater understanding of our place in reality?


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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Dreamatrix... its 2 weeks till the chat. Do we have the names of who is gonna be there with voice?

Kykeon
athens, greece


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: HappyLeftist]
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All of the information this guy is going to give you, you could find 10x over by just browsing sites/forums. And if you want to know his opinion just because HE is HIM, then that is sad, because he is no better than any of us, so you shouldnt feel 'privilaged' cause you get a response from him. I'm not trying to be negative here, and I am aware of his vast knoweldge of ethneogens, but unless you actually get to converse with him and ask him more than one question, I doubt you will take much from the experience, except maybe the novelty of having Dennis McKenna 'talk' to you. I personally would'nt put this on my 'to do' list. If you have any questions about plants, why dont you just talk to CptMaxMushroom? He knows more than most ever will, and will answer more than one question for you. I am simply stating my opinion, not trying to change others'. But for all of you participating in the chat, I hope you get your questions answers and have fun. Happy shroomin, Shaft


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: Middleman]
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maybe just say thank you from many of us....for everything

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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Ok here's my question I thought of. Not sure if any of this has already been asked. If they are just let me know and they'll be crossed off my list  :smirk:

Q: Do you think it coincidence that very complex chemicals, which can affect human conciousness to such a profound degree, exist in nature? Or do you think there is some "reason" for these chemicals existing in nature?

Q: If I may as a personal question...what has been your greatest, most profound I guess, experience with psychedelics?

Q: Do you think that psychedelics will ever become an accepted part of our (Western) society? 


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: trendal]
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What type of format is the chat going to be in? I'm wondering if it's just going to be a forum where everyone asks ?s...

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: TinMan]
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It?s going to be a moderated interview on the Shroomery IRC channel (Shroomery Chat):
http://www.shroomery.org/chatandmessageboards.html



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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: DreaMaTrix]
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wow. I'd like to ask him if Terrence made that up about the sound he made and the mushroom glowing. and if not, if he could describe what was going on in his mind when he did that.

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: Myconaut]
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and for anyone looking for some great terrence mckenna mp3s a little bird told me they might have them back up at www.elftrance.com so... check it, yawl

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: Myconaut]
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Thanks for the help Anno. Now, time to read up on Dennis...

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: leafblowerz]
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oh and so your judgements protect your fragile ego.


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: GazzBut]
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Gazzbut

I'll cut everybody some slack and pretend I didn't see your comment, tard.

Leaf

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: leafblowerz]
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Ahhh shit... last night my ISP decided I've reached the max usage for the network I was on. A hell of a time to kick me off that network...

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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: TinMan]
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so is this chat going to be posted anywhere or...


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Re: Dennis McKenna live chat ***DATE*** [Re: Strumpling]
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yeah i want to see it too!


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