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OfflineCaptBeefheart
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The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences
    #1264692 - 01/31/03 08:23 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Hi,
Has anyone experienced taking 5 dried grams and sitting alone in the dark with no music,lights or TV? Terence Mckenna believes this is the best way of getting visions. I've never done this and I'm thinking about doing it tonight as an experiment in enlightenment.
What are your experiences if any and is is it scary/heavy?





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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1264723 - 01/31/03 08:35 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

LOL, five grams should do very nicely. Ive seen people post on this site saying they've taken 7g. It's funny though, now that I think about it, I havn't seen any trip logs in the community forums in a good long while though. I havn't seen any trip toys forums lately either.  :frown: Oh well. probably on a higher dose like that you might want some ulttra soothing music while sitting alone in the dark, Id imagine you'd go on a good shamanic journey that way a lot better than if you were just watching TV or something. A closet would probably work best. Just clean out the closet and put some clothes or pillows on the closet floor to sit or lay on. that would do it. You'd probably need some soothing music though so that you'd bring down the risk of freaking out and having a bad trip. You are gonna probably want a trip sitter there also.  :grin: 


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1264778 - 01/31/03 08:54 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

It's all in my report entitled EQUINOX in the level 5 section.  Possibly not as true a level 5 as it could have been and I did go outside and ran around a park like an idiot for an hour or two, but yeah, no TV, no music, no extra lighting, no trip toys, just me and the mushroom.  And it was night so things were dark.

It was great!  One of the finest experiences I've had so far.

Good luck, Cap'n!

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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1264795 - 01/31/03 09:00 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

There's no way I would be able to sit still in a room by myself on 5g of mushrooms  :smirk:

My ADD gets way too bad.

But taking a lot of mushrooms is one sure way to get a LOT of visuals. I took 7g a week or two ago and let me tell you about visuals: I couldn't see anything BUT visuals.

Wow  :smile: :smile:


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: the_Landotter]
    #1264824 - 01/31/03 09:10 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I'd like to read your Equinox report, is it on the shroomery? (I searched but could not find it).

Yeah, strong visuals aren't something I've really had on shrooms yet so I'm hoping the 5-6g trip will do it.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1264844 - 01/31/03 09:20 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

There are alot of people who complain about not getting any visuals/hallucinations during the trip. I guess some of those people could have a high tolerance to psilocybin while the rest would probably benefit if they just closed their eyes

If you're gonna sit in the dark it has to be "pitch black." If it's not then keep your eyes shut. You may open them again pretty quickly though... :shocked: :crazy: :shocked:... :laugh:   


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1264872 - 01/31/03 09:31 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I can't imagine tripping without music. Music = trip.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1264941 - 01/31/03 09:48 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Funny, I had to search for it a bit too. But Daddy found it. Here it is...

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/12122

Be warned! It's a long one.

Hey! Someone gave it 5 stars. Thas nice.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: the_Landotter]
    #1265130 - 01/31/03 10:41 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for that, a very good read. I especialy like the encounter with some kind of female entity you mentioned.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1265231 - 01/31/03 11:03 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, at the very least, you might get laid!

:tongue: 


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1265251 - 01/31/03 11:10 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I have experienced 1oz dried cubes in total darkness..........woke up in my shit and urine and felt used emotionaly, no memory of anything post T+2hrs.Solo trip so I have no notion what occurred.I recomend no more than 10g for high dose experience.I do not recomend even this without a sitter unless you are experienced in preparing for the physical effects of total ego loss+ loss of consciousness/bowel/bladder control.5g may precipitate a brief "ego loss" It will be enough for the first go and you will be consscious for it and keep physical integrity, a plus :grin:.For fullest effect fast 6hrs and TOTAL silence/darkness/even tempurature/naked/comfortable for 1hr prior to dose and during the whole experience.When you feel hungry again then come back :wink: Good luck and may God grant you the glimpse of eternity to guide you :smile: WR 


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: whiterasta] * 1
    #1265321 - 01/31/03 11:27 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

lol man..thats insane.

Honestly though...this is where I think people are going overboard. "woke up in my shit and urine and felt used emotionaly"....maybe it's because I haven't(or could never) experience that....but why?

When your shitting yourself...don't you think that is a sign, that maybe this isn't good for your body(mind, whatever)?


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: juicemonkey]
    #1265414 - 01/31/03 11:51 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Lol, thanks for sharing whiterasta, I don't think I'll be doing an ounce any time soon!
not without a nappy anyway.
Its a shame you have no memory of the experience, I'd feel cheated and wonder if it was really worth doing.

I'm thinking of doing the 5grams in about 1hrs time.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: CaptBeefheart]
    #1265977 - 01/31/03 03:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I've done that, as well as doing a salvia trip like that as well :smile:

Quite different than lighted, soundscaped environments.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: juicemonkey]
    #1266230 - 01/31/03 05:51 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)




Honestly though...this is where I think people are going overboard. "woke up in my shit and urine and felt used emotionaly"....maybe it's because I haven't(or could never) experience that....but why?





LOL so I can tell the young'uns not to :grin: HELL yes it was overboard but when I was young there was no Shroomery to give me a clue,shit computers filled whole rooms when I did this(along with many other things.Some good some bad)




When your shitting yourself...don't you think that is a sign, that maybe this isn't good for your body(mind, whatever)?   




Gawd son! I've had worse drunks! with worse hangovers! All I needed was a shower and breakfast and I was a lil spun but OK.Point is one reaches a limit on the effects and can go nowhere but out.Something perhaps folks would not know if other folks hadn't found it out eh? :wink:WR 


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: whiterasta]
    #1266258 - 01/31/03 06:15 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

lol k. I'm sure I would have done it too, growing up back than.

yeah 1oz is quite a lot. The most I've done is around 5 grams

I want to plan a 7 gram trip and that's as high as I'm gonna go(maybe 8). But, I've been out of the 'tripping scene' for awhile....so who knows if I'll be able to do that. Hope so

Glad you made it through. lol. What was the first 2 hours like?


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: juicemonkey]
    #1266412 - 01/31/03 07:34 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

lol, man that sucks to wake up to being in your own shit an piss. I myself have experienced the 28grams trip an it was more then insane. It was stronger then takin 10+ hits of good acid by far. I didn't shit myself but was crawled up in a ball for 2 hours not knowing how i was or where or anything for that matter. Am very experienced in tripping an thought that i had definately gone to far an wasn't comming back. 10 grams was aswsome but the environment was bad so it almost turned out bad, everything is definately a visual even in the day light or being in a living room with lights on. to me high dose's are what give me that spiritual journey feeling some times i learn somethings somes times i just walk away being amazed. low dose's are for social gatherings. peace out!!!


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: shroomGod420]
    #1266444 - 01/31/03 07:50 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

check out the lycelium or watever the site is, and there is a 300g trip story, some crazy shit.


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1266528 - 01/31/03 08:14 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

yah, but how do you even know that is true? Sorry...but 300g is a lot of mushrooms...your stomach wouldn't like that


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Re: The Mckenna 'Heroic Dose (5g dried') - your experiences [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1267084 - 02/01/03 01:25 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

i see alot of these trip reports in the wrong places...or so it seems to me. i used to read level 5 reports about people taking at least 20-30 grams and usually ALOT more. like 60g up to 100g of mush...i would believe thats more of a level 5 dose.

about the visions and dark rooms...well, i would think visions would come with out. plus, sitting in a dark rooms with nothing to do but think would suck. you would probably think you were going insane.


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