RogerRabbit said:

It appears there's a deliberate attempt by those who should know better to tie the issue of Palestinian statehood with 911.

The modern state of Israel has about as much rightful claim to Palestine, as Americans would if this country falls, have claim to go back to England, set off a bunch of terrorist bombs, kick the Brits out of their homes at gunpoint, disarm them, and then resettle US residents into those homes, claim England as the ancestral homeland of Americans and then declare all of London as the capital of the United States.  Of course, any British citizen who joins the resistance to regain his home would be shot as a terrorist and his family's home in Scotland or Ireland would be bulldozed into the ground.

The current GOP field is falling all over themselves trying to win a tiny slice of the Jewish vote, which went overwhelmingly to Obama in 2008 and will again in 2012.  What they don't care about is that a majority of Israeli Jews as well as a majority of American Jews support a peace accord based on the 1967 borders.

Even Meir Dagan, the just retired head of the Mossad spy agency who spent his career tracking down enemies of Israel, supports a peace accord based on the 1967 borders.  It's just a few whack chicken-hawks who claim those borders are a 'threat' to Israel.  Gosh, it took all of 6 days to kick the holy shit out of the Arab world from those same borders in 1967, and Israel is exponentially stronger now than it was then.

The quickest way to get it done is to cut Israel off from the endless tit of the American taxpayer and tell them if they don't want to accept peace, to do it on their own damn nickel. Our deficits are high enough without borrowing more money to finance an endless state of war just so radical politicians can pander to a tiny, but loud-mouthed constituency with our tax dollars.
RR

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zappaisgod said:

If you want to cut off Israeli aid you should also cut off aid to all Muslims.  I think the Israelis would be fine without US government money.  The Muslims?  Not so much.

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zappaisgod said:

If you want to cut off Israeli aid you should also cut off aid to all Muslims.  I think the Israelis would be fine without US government money.  The Muslims?  Not so much.

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zappaisgod said:

And no, you are completely wrong about what a majority of Jews and Israelis think about the 1967 borders.  (Which 1967 borders, by the way?  The ones at the beginning or the ones at the end?)

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zappaisgod said:

If the Pallys stop fighting there will be no war.  If the Israelis stop fighting there will be no Israel.  I suspect that is probably your preference anyway.  You've been in Couer D'Alene too long.

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Icelander said:

Fair?  Might makes right in this world?  Israel is where it is because it could take it and can hold it. Same for every tribe since time began. 

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2jew4u said:

Icelander said:

Fair?  Might makes right in this world?  Israel is where it is because it could take it and can hold it. Same for every tribe since time began. 

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No Israel is whee its at, B/c the Allied powers gave it to them after WW2- They can only hold it B/c they have backing and lots of money,Planes, tanks - given to them by the United States

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2jew4u said:

Icelander said:

Fair?  Might makes right in this world?  Israel is where it is because it could take it and can hold it. Same for every tribe since time began. 

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No Israel is whee its at, B/c the Allied powers gave it to them after WW2- They can only hold it B/c they have backing and lots of money,Planes, tanks - given to them by the United States

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