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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9512224 - 12/29/08 12:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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They won the land in their war of independence after being invaded by all 5 neighbors. What the UN did or didnt do isnt of much consequence (just like today).
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9512240 - 12/29/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Israel even gave them the Gaza Strip back.
Israel has been trying to take the gaza strip, they didnt give it back, they occupied it and had to leave in order to effect a cease fire but it took them 4 years more than they claimed in order to clear out.
They left in 2005. They don't want it back any more than Egypt does. How's that working out?Quote:
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What did they get? Thousands of rockets.
only 3000 since 2002, many of which caused no casualties and some of which did no damage even to property
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Meanwhile, the West Bank, which is not controlled by Hamas is reasonably peaceful. Hmmmmm. Maybe what you see in Gaza is what happens when psychopaths rule.
psychopaths like the ones in israel that seized a jail in jerico and killed prisoners or the assaults on schools in the west bank that killed teachers and students
I'd love to see links. Also what was done with the perpetrators. Were they arrested or killed? Or were they made Generals. It takes a particularly defective intellect to equate the existence of a few psychopaths in one society and the systemic worship and elevation of psychopaths to the highest positions in another society. Those two societies are quite different, ya know.
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: zappaisgod]
#9512470 - 12/29/08 02:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: They left in 2005. They don't want it back any more than Egypt does. How's that working out?
except they've been claiming they've pulled out since 2005, yet the IDF remains a continual force in gaza
or maybe you've forgotten...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel's_unilateral_disengagement_plan Those Israeli citizens that refused to accept government compensation packages and voluntarily vacate their homes prior to the August 15, 2005 deadline, were evicted by Israeli security forces over a period of several days.[1] Demolition of the residential buildings and the evacuation of all residents and associated security personnel from the Gaza Strip was completed by September 12, 2005.[2] Evacuation and dismantlement of the four settlements in the northern West Bank was completed ten days later.
2005? http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/366/15990_Israel.html
maybe it was 2006 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/nov/08/israel http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1161811234333&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
no, maybe 2008? http://www.infolive.tv/en/infolive.tv-19054-israelnews-hours-after-idf-pull-out-gaza-grad-missiles-hit-ashkelon-rockets-hit http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3514012,00.html http://www.china.org.cn/international/news/2008-03/04/content_11497835.htm
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Meanwhile, the West Bank, which is not controlled by Hamas is reasonably peaceful. Hmmmmm. Maybe what you see in Gaza is what happens when psychopaths rule.
psychopaths like the ones in israel that seized a jail in jerico and killed prisoners or the assaults on schools in the west bank that killed teachers and students
I'd love to see links. Also what was done with the perpetrators. Were they arrested or killed? Or were they made Generals.
I know, israels is never doing things that the world would view as bad, who cares what happened, they were jews doing gods work protecting gods chosen people by killing innocent children, must be a preemptive attack, prevent the kids from growing up to join hamas or hezbollah
http://www.metimes.com/International/2008/07/17/israeli_attacks_backfire_unite_hamas_fatah/2584/
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It takes a particularly defective intellect to equate the existence of a few psychopaths in one society and the systemic worship and elevation of psychopaths to the highest positions in another society. Those two societies are quite different, ya know.
I know they're different, like when the muslims decide to molest little kids they do marry them first
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1157913631095
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/793372.html
http://www.jnewswire.com/article/1777
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/may/02/israel
those big ol' brave IDF soldiers https://israel.indymedia.org/newswire/display/6164/index.php
and of course the muslims send 9yo girls to kill a bunch of soldiers, alone, in the dark, 5 miles from home http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2006/s1563060.htm
yep... those israelis are a lot different
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9512634 - 12/29/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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You have become a caricature. Israel forcibly removed the last settlers from Gaza in 2005. Since then they have made several raids to try to curtail the rain of rockets by the murderous lunatics. They'll keep going back when they need to until the murderous lunatics stop sending rockets into Israel.
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: zappaisgod]
#9512710 - 12/29/08 02:46 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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stop the rockets by killing children.... seems their methods encourage retaliation, maybe it's so the israelis can have an excuse to exterminate the palestinians
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9512878 - 12/29/08 03:24 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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> only 3000 since 2002
Umm... source?
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Palestinian+terror+since+2000/Missile+fire+from+Gaza+on+Israeli+civilian+targets+Aug+2007.htm
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1,212 rockets and 1,290 mortar bombs fired from the Gaza Strip have struck southern Israel since the beginning of the year (Jan-Nov 2008).
By most counts, over 10000 rockets and mortars have been fired into Israel from Palestinian territory since 2002. Notice that the above count is for attacks originated from Gaza alone, not the entire Palestinian territory (and is for less than a year).
> many of which caused no casualties and some of which did no damage even to property
All of which had the potential to kill. Just because they aren't effective doesn't mean they should be forgiven. If I empty a gun clip into your home every night, does it matter that I never killed anybody?
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9513241 - 12/29/08 04:42 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are you suggesting that it would be better if there were more Israeli casualties? By your logic it would have been better if the Japanese killed more Americans after the nukes... WTF are you smokin.
Apparently your reading comprehension is not too hot. What he is suggesting is that the number of Palestinians killed is unacceptable.
To who? The losing the side? What's wrong with raping the fucking shit out of your enemy?
What's wrong with killing thousands of Japanese in a few seconds? Yea.. drop that fucker, TWICE. Shit we should just drop it right now for the fuck of it.
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downforpot said: You don't know anything just like when you said that modern medicine is not responsible for increasing population. You really don't know anything....
ok... show me this statement, you certainly seem to have this stuck in your craw
You certainly have amnesia.
The whole thread you pretty much said modern medicine is b: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8342104#8342104
You think I am going to take you seriously after all that bullshit you said? LOL
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In addition, modern Israel sits on what was formerly known as Palestine. They give the Palestinians a small strip of arid desert with blockaded ports, while they keep all the good farmland and water.
RR
Did Jews control that area before the Palestinians? Yes or No.
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: downforpot]
#9513265 - 12/29/08 04:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9513303 - 12/29/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too.
Here they are:
1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative."
Listen carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what happens.
2) "Violence only leads to more violence."
This one is so stupid you usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it. Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already: Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky, half measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully thought through, professional, well executed violence never leads to more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead. That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not reeducated," not "nurtured back into the bosom of love." Dead.
3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have failed us."
For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy satellites. "After all, (they reasoned,) you can see a license plate from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet that bin Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years.
4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at us."
Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend more time drinking. It's the same today.
5) "Any profiling is racial profiling."
Who's killing us here, the Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff, never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World" for a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt.Rushmore and turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't offend them."
SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our murdered brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get away with their immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that bumper sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "No More Pearl Harbors."
THIS NEEDS TO STAY IN CIRCULATION FOR THOSE WHO HAVE OR WILL FALL FOR THE STUPIDITY GOING AROUND. PLEASE PASS IT ON!
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Seuss]
#9513353 - 12/29/08 05:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Seuss said: > only 3000 since 2002
Umm... source? By most counts, over 10000 rockets and mortars have been fired into Israel from Palestinian territory since 2002.
mortars are not qassam rockets
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket
in 2007 it reports the 2000th rocket launced at israel surely the US press would have announce another 8000 being launched in a 6month span http://www.theisraelproject.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=hsJPK0PIJpH&b=689705&ct=4724883
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All of which had the potential to kill. Just because they aren't effective doesn't mean they should be forgiven. If I empty a gun clip into your home every night, does it matter that I never killed anybody?
should I kill your kids because you shot at me yesterday, should I murder your wifes family because you missed me again today, I like the precision of the high powered rifle, it allows me to eliminate the threat with minimal collateral casualties
all this crap just reinforces the need exterminate both side, all this is cutting into the important news about Paris and Brittany, I've not heard a thing about them in a week
looks like israel missed the right opportunity a few times to resolve the issue and end hostilities, there are times when air strikes and collateral damage is truly acceptable

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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9513377 - 12/29/08 05:04 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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all this crap just reinforces the need exterminate both side, all this is cutting into the important news about Paris and Brittany, I've not heard a thing about them in a week
Who would you rather see win? Israel or Hamas?
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: downforpot]
#9513395 - 12/29/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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No one wins as long as people inhabit the Levant region.
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: downforpot]
#9513407 - 12/29/08 05:09 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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all this crap just reinforces the need exterminate both side, all this is cutting into the important news about Paris and Brittany, I've not heard a thing about them in a week
Who would you rather see win? Israel or Hamas?
what part of my statement is so hard to understand
arabs are dumb for bombing a country that's supported by the US because they know we 'sell' billions in arms to them in addition to 'loaning' them our tax dollars as such they need to be exterminated
jews are dumb because they never seem to follow through with their promises and plans no matter how good they may be and as such they should be wiped out as well for their stupidity
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#9513413 - 12/29/08 05:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Penguarky Tunguin said: No one wins as long as people inhabit the Levant region.
peace through complete annihilation, it seems to work
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9513419 - 12/29/08 05:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would argue you don't even need to nuke the whole region.
How 'bout America and NATO steps in and says "you know what, assholes, no more, no one lives here any more" and kick everyone out of that region. No one lives there, no problems. No homeland to claim.
And then nuke everyone who tries to come back.
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: downforpot]
#9513431 - 12/29/08 05:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hamas hides behind children.
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Luddite]
#9513442 - 12/29/08 05:15 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Luddite said: Hamas hides behind children.
Israelis suck at photoshop.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=285_1230135976
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#9513447 - 12/29/08 05:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's not an Israeli picture.
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Luddite]
#9513454 - 12/29/08 05:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Check my link.
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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#9513474 - 12/29/08 05:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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That link says nothing about the picture I posted. Israelis don't use human shields because muslims will kill them anyway.
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