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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Basilides]
    #6221790 - 10/28/06 07:07 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I can solve this. Without foreign aid Palestine couldn't survive. They have no economy whatsoever. Stop giving them money and they will all starve to death. Problem solved.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: robbyberto]
    #6221818 - 10/28/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Completely unethical


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Basilides]
    #6221863 - 10/28/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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And what countries were those "internationally" recognized parts of?




Egypt and Jordan, both of which are now on peaceful terms with Israel. What's your point? That because the old myopic governments of these countries decided to attack Israel way back in the late 60's mean that these subsequent territories should forever remain without identity, with its native inhabitants living under an otherly military rule of law? You know, it wouldn't be an issue at all, in the slightest, if Israel had completely annexed the West Bank and Gaza Strip and made the land along with all its inhabitants a part of the Israeli body. Instead what we have here is a society under military occupation.

Finally, Israel itself has never used the Six Day war as an excuse to occupy the territories. Such a diatribe is only applied by extremists, and those who believe the situation in the occupied territories is something that is geopolitically normal.  :rolleyes:




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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Basilides]
    #6221869 - 10/28/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I may very well be unethical to continue to lenable them.

ethics is a fuunny word and if considered quite the paradox.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #6222002 - 10/28/06 08:41 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Neither of which want to have any part of the cesspool that the Pallytrogs (Troglestinians?) have made of them. So, just what mystical "internationally recognized" nation do these territories belong to? Rosettaland? KOTTistan?


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6222295 - 10/28/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

They belong to a significant population of human beings living in those territories without a nation to call their own. Does it at all, in the slightest, strike you as odd that 99.9% of the world's population has a country to call their own while this segment of human beings does not?


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Basilides]
    #6222301 - 10/28/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

"Burkina Faso? Disputed Zone? Who called all of these crazy places!". :grin:

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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6222731 - 10/29/06 02:07 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Zappa how do you view the Israeli Palestinian conflict? I am honestly interested to know. You obviously have no empathy for the Palestinian position, I too believe blowing up innocent people is never justified and just flat wrong.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Basilides]
    #6222923 - 10/29/06 06:21 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Basilides writes:

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They belong to a significant population of human beings living in those territories without a nation to call their own. Does it at all, in the slightest, strike you as odd that 99.9% of the world's population has a country to call their own while this segment of human beings does not?




Does it not strike you as odd that one day these people called themselves Egyptians or Jordanians, and the next day they called themselves Palestinians? Does it not also strike you as odd that even though these Egyptians and Jordanians appear to absolutely hate living in occupied Egypt or occupied Jordan, they appear to hate even more the thought of moving a few miles to live in unoccupied Egypt and unoccupied Jordan?

Don't try to claim these folks don't have nations to call their own -- they do, and have always had.




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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Luddite]
    #6223126 - 10/29/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect?

From the WiKi:

According to various genetic studies, Jewish populations and Palestinian populations do overlap genetically. Palestinian Muslims additionally have genetic components that are found in the population of the Arabian Peninsula, but are rare in Jews. Ashkenazi Jews also carry components found in European populations, but are rare in Arabs.

Geneticists generally agree there was mixing in Middle East populations in prehistoric times. Nebel et al. (2000) doing Y-chromosome haplotype analysis for patrilineal ancestry of Jews and Palestinian Muslims "revealed a common gene pool for a large portion of Y chromosomes, suggesting a relatively recent common ancestry". The two modal haplotypes that comprise the Palestinian Arab clade were very infrequent among Jews, "reflecting divergence and/or admixture from other populations". Nebel et al. regard their findings in good agreement with historical evidence that suggest that "Part, or perhaps the majority, of the Muslim Arabs in this country descended from local inhabitants, mainly Christians and Jews, who had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh century AD... These local inhabitants, in turn, were descendants of the core population that had lived in the area for several centuries, some even since prehistoric times.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

A better question might be: Do the people of that region have a genetic propensity toward belief in an invisible friend as the never-ending conflict, at its core, is about an invisible friend granting both group ownership of the same land.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Phred]
    #6223503 - 10/29/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Many people called themselves Palestinians before they were violently kicked out of their lands to give way to a newly created country and many people who migrated there. Many of those Palestinians still have their written property titles as a testimony. Somehow, you seem to ignore this issue.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Luddite]
    #6223671 - 10/29/06 11:54 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Luddite said:
Boim: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? 

By Yair Ettinger, Haaretz Correspondent and Haaretz Service
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=397851




And that was all i needed to read.

Jews think Palestinians are genetically disposed to terror


Nice Source once again!

Got any Palestinian articles about how jews can smell money with there hook noses?
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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Phred]
    #6223759 - 10/29/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Phred said:
Basilides writes:

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They belong to a significant population of human beings living in those territories without a nation to call their own. Does it at all, in the slightest, strike you as odd that 99.9% of the world's population has a country to call their own while this segment of human beings does not?




Does it not strike you as odd that one day these people called themselves Egyptians or Jordanians, and the next day they called themselves Palestinians? Does it not also strike you as odd that even though these Egyptians and Jordanians appear to absolutely hate living in occupied Egypt or occupied Jordan, they appear to hate even more the thought of moving a few miles to live in unoccupied Egypt and unoccupied Jordan?

Don't try to claim these folks don't have nations to call their own -- they do, and have always had.




Phred




I see your point, but these people do not have citizenship in either Egypt or Jordan, and both countries refuse to absorb them. Since Israel also refuses to absorb, what other options is there?


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Aldous]
    #6223794 - 10/29/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Aldous writes:

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Many people called themselves Palestinians before they were violently kicked out of their lands to give way to a newly created country and many people who migrated there.




What country would that be? You can't be referring to Egypt, since that country has existed forever. So you must be referring to the newly created countries of Israel and Jordan. What countries were the occupants of the area which was renamed Jordan "kicked out" of? Answer -- no country. They stayed where they were and their nation started being referred to as Jordan. As for those who had lived in the area which was renamed Israel, they weren't "kicked out" either. Many stayed, others left because they didn't want to stay in a country run by Jews, and they left with the hopes the Jews would be expelled and they could move back then.

So now these people are to be properly referred to as either Jordanians or Israelis, depending where they live at the time (1948).

Starting two decades later, Jordan and Syria and Egypt lose a series of wars of aggression against Israel, losing territory as a consequence. The people living in those occupied territories are faced with a choice: move to other parts of Syria or Jordan or Egypt, or live in a place run by Jews until that land is either recaptured by Syria and Egypt and Jordan or is given up (see Sinai as an example) by the Israelis.

Many of those folks made the sensible decision: they moved to other parts of Jordan and Egypt. How the obstinacy of those who refused to move suddenly grants them the title "Palestinian" escapes me.



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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Phred]
    #6224052 - 10/29/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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As for those who had lived in the area which was renamed Israel, they weren't "kicked out" either. Many stayed, others left because they didn't want to stay in a country run by Jews, and they left with the hopes the Jews would be expelled and they could move back then.


Take a look at the Palestinian exodus entry at Wikipedia.
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During the war of 1948, many fled or were expelled from their homes in the part of the land that would become the State of Israel to other parts of the land or to neighbouring countries.
The UN estimates their number at 711,000 [1] while the Israeli estimate of the refugees is 420,000 and the Palestinian estimate is 900,000. The degree to which the flight of the refugees was voluntary or involuntary is hotly debated. Some cases of expulsion are well-documented, such as in Lydda and Ramle.


It seems you candidly forgot a third category: those who were expelled.

One other point. You wrote: "others left because they didn't want to stay in a country run by Jews". This is more correctly phrased than you imagine. The country is run in a racist and theocratic way. For instance, there is no such thing as a civil marriage. Everyone should have a religious wedding in their own religion, and mixed marriages are prohibited (!). (Read this article for some background). Also, you should be a Jew to be granted Israeli citizenship. Etc... So Arabs are discriminated by law in Israel, and that's a fact.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Basilides]
    #6224060 - 10/29/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Indeed. Those who split hairs over whether there was a "Palestine" before Israel are missing the point. Bottom line, it's wrong for these people to be held under military occupation without having citizenship in any country.

The occupied territories should either:
1. Become an independent nation or nations.
2. Be given back to Egypt and Jordan.
3. Become part of Israel.

It is simply unjust for them to remain under perpetual military occupation.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Aldous]
    #6224284 - 10/29/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Take a look at the Palestinian exodus entry at Wikipedia.




Uh huh. As if Wikipedia is the place to get the scoop on things. However, even Wikipedia grudgingly acknowledges the whole "expulsion" meme is hotly debated.

As for your bullshit about only Jews being allowed to hold Israeli citizenship, you really need to do some research before making your next post. Seriously.



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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Silversoul]
    #6224295 - 10/29/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Bottom line, it's wrong for these people to be held under military occupation without having citizenship in any country.




Why did they not have citizenship in any country in 1967? Are you trying to tell me that Jordan and Egypt and Syria hadn't gotten around by 1967 to granting citizenship to all Jordanians and Egyptians and Syrians? If they hadn't, how is that the fault of Israel?


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Luddite]
    #6224382 - 10/29/06 04:12 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

i watched a doco last night about an 'englisnman' of lebanese descent going back to lebanon to revisit his childhood past and while he was driving he mentioned that lebanon has a reputation for being the easiest country in the world to get your drivers licence

they drive straight ahead with two brakes and then in reverse with two breaks,now that might work in the desert but in a western city?
now i really wonder if we have them bastards coming here with an international licence after getting it like that in their homelands

genetic defects 100%


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: quiver]
    #6224649 - 10/29/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

could you elaborate on the two brakes method of driving?


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