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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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:lol:
it took me a sec to work it out too

drive about 100 metres and come to a stop twice and the same in reverse


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Phred]
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Phred said:
However, even Wikipedia grudgingly acknowledges the whole "expulsion" meme is hotly debated.

Wikipedia said:
Some cases of expulsion are well-documented, such as in Lydda and Ramle.

Another selective read by Phred.
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As for your bullshit about only Jews being allowed to hold Israeli citizenship, you really need to do some research before making your next post. Seriously.

I did not say 'hold', I said 'be granted', meaning 'acquire'. But even then, you're right, I should've researched it, my source was my Jewish ex-girlfriend who apparently got it wrong.
Anyway, you've got to admit that the preferential treatment for Jews regarding immigration and acquisition of citizenship reeks of discrimination, and you didn't even address the rest of my post. Clearly Israeli law is very much based upon race and religion, and blatantly favors Jews.

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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Phred]
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Phred said:
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Bottom line, it's wrong for these people to be held under military occupation without having citizenship in any country.


Why did they not have citizenship in any country in 1967? Are you trying to tell me that Jordan and Egypt and Syria hadn't gotten around by 1967 to granting citizenship to all Jordanians and Egyptians and Syrians? If they hadn't, how is that the fault of Israel?


Phred


They need citizenship somewhere. :shrug:


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Basilides]
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They need citizenship somewhere.


So what happened? Did Jordan revoke the citizenship of only those Jordanians residing in the West Bank when Jordan lost the war? No... Jordan didn't. Did Egypt revoke the citizenship of only those Egyptians residing in Sinai and the Gaza Strip when Egypt lost the war? No... Egypt didn't.

Why on earth should Israel grant them citizenship? Those folks already HAD citizenship -- of another country.

So what's the deal? The Palis said, "We don't want to retain our Jordanian and/or Egyptian citizenship anymore, because those countries are losers. We hereby secede from those loser countries! Now... someone else give us some new passports, okay?"

Gimme a break.




Phred


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Phred]
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Gimme a break.


I'd say the same to you. You're missing the point once again. Israel will not let them go, but will not make them citizens. What concern is it of Israel whether they're an independent country or a part of Egypt or Jordan? What matters is that Israel is occupying an area militarily while neither allowing the people Iraeli citizenship, nor allowing them to govern themselves. It's a simple matter of withdrawing the troops. Or at least, it would be simple if they didn't keep encouraging Israelis to settle in the occupied territories.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Phred]
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Phred said:
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They need citizenship somewhere.


So what happened? Did Jordan revoke the citizenship of only those Jordanians residing in the West Bank when Jordan lost the war? No... Jordan didn't. Did Egypt revoke the citizenship of only those Egyptians residing in Sinai and the Gaza Strip when Egypt lost the war? No... Egypt didn't.

Why on earth should Israel grant them citizenship? Those folks already HAD citizenship -- of another country.

So what's the deal? The Palis said, "We don't want to retain our Jordanian and/or Egyptian citizenship anymore, because those countries are losers. We hereby secede from those loser countries! Now... someone else give us some new passports, okay?"

Gimme a break.




Phred


I just want to see them have citizenship anywhere, whether it is Israel, Egypt or Jordan. Unfortunately all three countries do not want them, so the only viable solution is an independent nation state in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul writes:

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You're missing the point once again. Israel will not let them go, but will not make them citizens.


No, it is you who misses the point. To say "Israel will not let them go" is utter nonsense. Israel has never prevented Jordanians from leaving the West Bank to live elsewhere in Jordan, nor has Israel ever prevented Egyptians from leaving Gaza (and earlier, Sinai) to live elsewhere in Egypt. But if those folks want to stay in Gaza or the West Bank, they stay as Jordanians and Egyptians. By what twisted logic does it become Israel's responsibility to issue new passports to those people?



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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Phred]
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When you say "elsewhere in Jordan" (speaking about the West Bank) or "elsewhere in Egypt" (speaking about Gaza), do you imply these territories belong to Jordan and Egypt, respectively?

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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Aldous]
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To the best of my knowledge, Jordan has never officially acknowledged the loss of the West Bank. Atlases for decades shaded both the West Bank and Gaza (and earlier Sinai) with crosshatching and labeled them "disputed territories". As a matter of fact, go to any atlas today and check the borders of Israel.

Egypt accepted the return of Sinai when it was de-occupied, but for some strange reason doesn't want to take back the Gaza Strip. Maybe it's because those Egyptians who were living there before the wars (who have magically transmuted themselves into Palestinians) are now unattractive to the Egyptian government? I don't know.



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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Phred]
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Westbankjan06.jpg

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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Phred]
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Phred said:
As a matter of fact, go to any atlas today and check the borders of Israel.

So you do acknowledge Israel is occupying and colonizing a foreign territory?

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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
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Gimme a break.


I'd say the same to you. You're missing the point once again. Israel will not let them go, but will not make them citizens. What concern is it of Israel whether they're an independent country or a part of Egypt or Jordan? What matters is that Israel is occupying an area militarily while neither allowing the people Iraeli citizenship, nor allowing them to govern themselves. It's a simple matter of withdrawing the troops. Or at least, it would be simple if they didn't keep encouraging Israelis to settle in the occupied territories.


What, you're not allowed to keep territory conquered in a war now? Here's the simple hard ugly facts. Jordan wouldn't take it back if you paid them. Neither would Egypt. Shitholes populated by shitheads, outspoken about their desire to completely eradicate Israel. The only people who have claim to the territory now are Jordanians and Israelis, not the stateless squatters. Syria can fuck off, they're never getting the Golan Heights back. When your enemy tells you he wants to murder you, you are obliged to listen to him. The recent elections should send a clear message. As to your utterly ignorant assertion that they are encouraging people to settle in the occupied territories, you really need to pay better attention. Those days are long gone.
Just how anybody can be so obtuse is a mystery to me. Where's Gilad?


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: zappaisgod]
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I actually agree, Muslims are really starting to get on my last nerve. While the state of Israel is a sham to me(if by war is how you gain land, Jews deserve nothing, just going by your assesment, not saying Jews actually deserve nothing), they have built a decent country(on America's dime) but none the less they are civilized, and generally want peace.

I think Israel should give Palestine one last chance, get out of their land, stop blocking roads and ports, and let them do their own thing. The second the Palestinians attack again.....well game over. I don't think Israel is/has given Palestine a fair chance. They sit their and rule them pretty much and get mad when Palestine doesn't want to take it.

The whole situation is messed up, Israel should just re locate to California already and get away from these fanatics, lol.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Hank, FTW]
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The whole region was carved out of the Ottoman Empire after WW1. Every border there is a spoil of war.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: zappaisgod]
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Israel was carved out after WW1?


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Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Hank, FTW]
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Israel has existed for thousands of years, long before Islam existed. Occasionally it was conquered and named something else, but the Jews always owned every last bit of land in Israel forever! Palestine is not an Arab name. It is a Roman name that was given to the Jewish land. Palestine came from the word Philistine which means land of the Jews.


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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Luddite]
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I don't believe Philistine means "land of the Jews".

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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Luddite]
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You never cease to amaze me with your vast knowlege.

:rofl:


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Capliberty:

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Hell yeah I push the limits and hell yeah thats fucking cool, dope, bad ass and all that, I'm not changing shit, I'm cutting to to the chase and giving u shroom experience report. Real trippers aren't afraid to go beyond there comfort zone "

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Re: Is Palestinian terror caused by a genetic defect? [Re: Luddite]
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Luddite said:
Palestine came from the word Philistine which means land of the Jews.

That's wrong by all accounts. The Philistines were the first people inhabiting the area, and they were NOT the Jewish people. I remember somewhere in the story of David and Goliath, the Jews were badmouthing this "uncut Philistine" (Goliath).

Anyway, events from millennia ago should not interfere with present politics.

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