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OfflineZahid
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Israeli terrorism
    #577977 - 03/13/02 03:22 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

The crimes against humanity carried out by Ariel Sharon







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Invisiblebivalve
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: Zahid]
    #577988 - 03/13/02 03:44 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

The baby has no head.

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Invisibleiglou
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: Zahid]
    #578262 - 03/13/02 10:17 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Imagine the Israeli flag. Now change the blue star of david to a blue swastika. Same fucking difference. Fuck the Americans for supporting the Zionazis.




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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: iglou]
    #578274 - 03/13/02 10:30 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

I truly believe you should say fuck the American Government for supporting
the Zionazis. I for one, am adamantly opposed to what my stolen dollars support.

Edited by evolving (03/13/02 10:31 PM)

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Invisibleiglou
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: ]
    #578278 - 03/13/02 10:45 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

So, why dont the American people do something? In my opinion, passive acceptance of government policy and the acutal implementation of these policies is one in the same. They are mutually dependent.

You are a republic correct? Well, those are your representatives.

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Anonymous

Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: iglou]
    #578315 - 03/13/02 11:39 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Some Americans do, I vote against them. I contact my representatives and
tell them. I try and convince others that what is happening is wrong. The mass
of men are sheeple, domesticated primates who want to be coddled and
taken care of by their government. They do not desire freedom, they desire
to be Free-from (responsiblity for themselves and political discord).
As long as they have their comforts, their cable TV's SUV's and government
'safety net' they will accept almost anything because they are being taken
care of and that is all that matters. What do you suggest for the minority who
are opposed? Armed revolt? Ever heard of Waco?

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InvisiblePGF
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: Zahid]
    #578539 - 03/14/02 07:29 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Israeli jews are no better than dogs for what they are doing.


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Anonymous

Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: Zahid]
    #578632 - 03/14/02 09:54 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

I think it would be a good idea for everyone who sees this post and is disgusted
by the scenes that they see to copy these photos and post them to any and all
boards/newsgroups that they can think of. It is important that people do not
remain ignorant of what is happening. The regular media refuse to cover this
so it is up to us who use the internet to change the tide of public opinion in the US.

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InvisiblePGF
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: ]
    #578675 - 03/14/02 10:49 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

You should write an editorial and submit it to your local newspaper.
The intrnet is great, but you should really make people in your physical community aware.


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Anonymous

Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: PGF]
    #578720 - 03/14/02 11:40 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

I've never seen the paper publish photos in the editorial section (other than mug
shots of the pundit class) and this is what I think will make the impact. However,
I will follow your suggestion and I will also send them the photos.

Zahid,
would you be so kind as to provide a link where these photos are published so I could:
1) get permission for the paper to publish them
2) provide a url to include in the editorial, especially if the paper won't publish them

Edited by evolving (03/14/02 11:42 AM)

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Offlinemadscientist
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: Zahid]
    #578755 - 03/14/02 12:22 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Yup, I said it before. The only way peace will come to the middle east is if the sheeple of the west wake up COMPLAIN! enough of this butchery already.


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Instead of the dove as the symbol of peace we should have a pillow. Its got more feathers but doesnt have that nasty sharp beak......

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InvisiblePGF
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: ]
    #578978 - 03/14/02 05:37 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

no man, just write an editorial.
words can be as effective as pictures.


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Anonymous

Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: PGF]
    #579033 - 03/14/02 06:23 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

But a lot of Americans are illiterate and I use big words sometimes.

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InvisiblePGF
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: ]
    #579047 - 03/14/02 06:36 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Nevermind. Just post your pictures on the web and walk away thinking you're an activist.


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Anonymous

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    #579538 - 03/15/02 09:39 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)


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Offlinemadscientist
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: Anonymous]
    #579626 - 03/15/02 11:21 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Nice one! Just a few corrections to your history: there were 678,000 jews in Isreal in 1948 and 1,269,000 arabs (the UN partition proposal of 1947 gave the arabs 45% of the land although a lot of the jewish 55% was the Negev desert. Jerusalem was to be an international city and neither arab nor jewish states would have borders that were anything close to defensible.) the Isreali state was proclaimed in 1948 not 1949. FYI :-)


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Anonymous

Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: PGF]
    #579630 - 03/15/02 11:32 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

I was being a bit sarcastic. When you said words can be as effective as pictures
you should have qualified that with "sometimes." There is also a saying that "one picture
is worth a thousand words." In many instances this is true. I do not know how
I could effectively describe in words the images that these photos portray. When
people are paging quickly through a newspaper, their eyes will pick up headlines
and photos, very seldom (if ever) will an intricate wordy description catch
their eye.

I could give a flying fuck about thinking of myself as an activist. I am more
concerned about the effectiveness of conveying a message with the means
available. A large number of the media in this country are heavily influenced/
controlled by people of the Jewish persuasion. The media also depend on access
to the government for news, if they piss off government officials, they will stop being
fed the news and their competitors will get many stories before them. Hence, the
concept of using the internet, it's unregulated, accesses by more and more
people daily and ideas/stories that don't get picked up by the traditional media
can be easily disseminated.

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Invisibleiglou
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: ]
    #579635 - 03/15/02 11:42 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)


More firing on Red Cross as well as Red Crescent ambulances, total cut-off of all medical services in Ramallah.

GUSH SHALOM - pob 3322, Tel-Aviv 61033 - http://www.gush-shalom.org/

[The following message from 'Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees and
'Physicians for Human Rights-Israel' reached us after midnight (Israeli time).
Through a telephone chain the Physicians for Human Rights called upon other peace
and human rights activists to assist in the effort of approaching political
officials, diplomats, etc. We were told that the situation worsened after the
email was written on, because Red Cross vehicles which were accompanying Red Crescent
ambulances were fired on this evening and they have ceased accompaniment.
This means that all medical services in Ramallah are totally cut off at this point.
Doctors and patients can not get to the hospitals. PHR is currently trying to help
a pregnant woman in El-Bireh get to a hospital, there are people who are wounded.
Please, contact whoever you can. See also contact information in the end of this message.]

The 'Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees' and 'Physicians for
Human Rights - Israel' jointly appeal for an end to the humanitarian nightmare
in the Palestinian territories.
Ramallah is now under complete occupation, 120 tanks are present on the
streets, and both helicopters and tanks are bombarding different
neighborhoods with missiles. Two hospitals, the Ramallah Hospital and
Ramallah Maternity Hospital, have been fired upon by Israeli troops. Also,
as in many places in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, soldiers have this
morning fired upon two ambulances in Ramallah.

Additionally the Israeli army is preventing access to medical care for the
sick and wounded, by forbidding their movement to hospital, and also by
refusing medical teams access to them for treatment at the scene. Clearly,
preventing access to the wounded will lead to more deaths; preventing sick
people from receiving treatment will also contribute to more deaths.

We urgently demand action from the world - international and humanitarian
organizations must immediately force the Israeli government to halt this
atrocity. We call upon you to demonstrate, to call governmental
representatives, to take any action that will allow Palestinian wounded
and ill to receive medical treatment - preventing more unnecessary deaths.
We also plead for foreign governments to act to bring an immediate halt to
this aggression by the Israeli army, and an end to this humanitarian crisis.
-----------------------------------------------
Please contact (some of) the following by (1)email, and (2)fax and
telephone - as far as
available:

(1) email addresses
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
Spokesperson of the Prime Minister
Defence Minister Benjamin Beneliezer
Deputy Defense Minister Dalia Rabin Pilosof, sgansar@mod.gov.il
Foreign Minister Shimon Peres ,
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan ecu@un.org, coi@un.org
US President George W. Bush president@whitehouse.gov
"Secretary of State, Colin Powell" ,
"Mr. Terje Rod Larsen Personal Representative of the Secretary General to
the United Nations in Palestine" unsco@palnet.com, lemore@un.org
Ms. Mary Robinson UN High Commissioner for Human Rights
Council of the European Union
karin.roxman@consilium.eu.int
christian.jouret@consilium.eu.int,
Javier.Sancho-Velazquez@consilium.eu.int

(2)
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon: The Office of the Prime Minister, Kiryat
Ben-Gurion, Jerusalem, Israel; Office Tel. 972-2-6705555/10Fax:
972-2-566-4838/6705415;

Minister of Foreign Affairs Shimon Peres: HaKirya Romema Jerusalem 91950
Tel. 972 2 5303531/3631/530 fax (+972-2) 5303506 /
5303896 5303367

Commander, Civil Administration Fax 972 2 9977326

President George W. Bush,
Fax: +1-202-456-2461;
phone: (202) 456-1414

Secretary of State Colin Powell,
Fax: +1-202-261-8577;



Further Details:

Hadas Ziv +972(0)50-228599 (Physicians for Human Rights-Israel)
Miri@phr.org.il

Rabbi Arik Asherman (Rabbis For Human Rights)
info@rhr.israel.net Tel. 972 (0)2 563-7731

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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: Zahid]
    #579829 - 03/15/02 03:37 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

from Arabic News:

A Palestinian mother bids farewell for her son before 'martyrdom' (wishes she had 100 more like him)
Arabic News | 3-15-2002

A Palestinian mother bids farewell for her son before 'martyrdom'

" I wish I had 100 sons like Muhammad ( her son) so as I will sacrifice all of them for the sake of God," said the Palestinian woman Mariam Farhat and was heard by thousands of viewers of the US "Fox News" network while she was eulogizing her son.

This was however, the first time a "Palestinian martyr" appears in a TV tape with his family before the execution of the operation.

Hours after that and within 15 minutes, last Thursday, Muhammad emptied his bullets and 6 bombs in an Israeli settlement in Gaza and as a result five settlers were killed and 20 wounded.

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I would save some indignation for those that deliberately have their children killed to score PR points in the press.


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OfflineZahid
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Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: ]
    #579849 - 03/15/02 03:57 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not sure of the direct source of the photographs. They are pretty common on the different Muslim forums on the internet.

wingnutx: Seems you're leaning towards the zionists. Palestinian terror is just as wrong as the terrorism the democratic State of Israel carries out. Palestinian terror is a direct result of Israel's illegal occupation in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The only way to peace in the Middle East is for Israel to withdraw completely from the West Bank and Gaza and for the UN to establish a Palestinian state in these areas.


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OfflinejUxTaPoSe
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Registered: 10/18/02
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Loc: BC, Canada
Last seen: 21 years, 5 months
Re: Israeli terrorism [Re: Zahid]
    #973238 - 10/18/02 08:04 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

i have been posting this in every palestinian-israeli thread...

what the fuck are little kids doing in the middle of hte crossfire? and please do not say that an israeli soldier went to someone's house, go look for a crib and a kid for him to shoot just for shits and giggles. no, only fucked up suicide bombers do that!


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we leave because we're disillusioned
we come back because we're lost
we die because we're committed
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