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Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids
    #9507756 - 12/28/08 03:02 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I personally dont see a problem with this, since Hamas has been launching rockets into Israel for months. And Israel has repeatedly warned of retaliation. Now the whole middle east it seems is once again condemning Israel and the US for the raids. What do you guys think?


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #9507849 - 12/28/08 03:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I think I want to see evidence that hamas was launching rockets
for months and that it wasnt in retaliation for atrocities or
human rights violations committed by the IDF


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #9507911 - 12/28/08 03:34 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
I personally dont see a problem with this, since Hamas has been launching rockets into Israel for months. And Israel has repeatedly warned of retaliation. Now the whole middle east it seems is once again condemning Israel and the US for the raids. What do you guys think?




I agree completely.  In recent history Israel continually makes concessions and ceases fire and it it nearly always the Palestinians who break that.  Proportionate response only prolongs the war.


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: DieCommie]
    #9507927 - 12/28/08 03:38 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

concessions like frequent detainment and killing of palestinians at border checkpoints? refusal to allow
them to cross to get to their jobs or seek medical care?


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #9507938 - 12/28/08 03:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I continue not to give a shit about either side. Let both of them rot.


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9507955 - 12/28/08 03:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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concessions like frequent detainment and killing of palestinians at border checkpoints? refusal to allow
them to cross to get to their jobs or seek medical care?




If the Palestinians werent constantly committing suicide bombings inside Israel this wouldnt be happening. Israel has every right to enforce and protect their own border.


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #9508585 - 12/28/08 06:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

>Israel has every right to enforce and protect their own border.

Sure, but killing 280 Palestinians and wounding 800 more, and preparing an invasion force? This is just going to make the situation much, much worse. For both sides.


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9508652 - 12/28/08 06:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
I think I want to see evidence that hamas was launching rockets
for months and that it wasnt in retaliation for atrocities or
human rights violations committed by the IDF




Are you serious?

Do we actually agree on an issue?

Holy Shit, that is the exact opposite of the position I would expect you to take.

This is literally the only thing I've ever read you post where I was like, "Yeah, that's the ticket!"

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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9508698 - 12/28/08 06:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Madtowntripper said:
Do we actually agree on an issue?





probably not, I say let israel nuke the wast bank and gaza,
iran should nuke israel, turkey should take out iran, syria
and lebanon should hit turkey and each other and we should go
in and eliminate saudi arabia, kuwait and egypt while india
and pakistan obliterate each other... that's my solution to
peace in the middle east

does that sound a little more reasonable?


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9508702 - 12/28/08 06:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You're right, we don't!


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #9508716 - 12/28/08 06:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
concessions like frequent detainment and killing of palestinians at border checkpoints? refusal to allow
them to cross to get to their jobs or seek medical care?




If the Palestinians werent constantly committing suicide bombings inside Israel this wouldnt be happening. Israel has every right to enforce and protect their own border.





if israel wasnt continually trying to force the palestinians
into the sea, murdering, bombing and starving the palestinians,
trying to bulldoze their homes and just generally being
unpleasant, I'm sure they wouldnt feel the need to bomb the
fuck out of israel

it's a situation where both side believe their gods chosen
people and they want to exterminate the other, so who wins?


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9508745 - 12/28/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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so who wins?




In the short term, the Israelis have the military power, political will, and international support to do more or less whatever they please to Palestinians living in Israel and residents of neighboring countries.

But in the long run, the Israeli position is untenable.


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9508835 - 12/28/08 06:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

we supply the IDF with 'smart bombs', precision tactical
devices capable of taking out and sort of military hardware
that hamas has with minimal collateral damage, hamas has
weapons that land in vacant fields and do little to harm
israeli citizens yet in these attacks more than 800 civilians
are killed including the bombing of a police station


hamas holds huge rallies with thousands of people showing up
in 'uniform', why the fuck doesnt israel just strike a few of
those if they're determined to eliminate hamas and minimalize
civilian casualties, they did 6 separate air strikes on a
single target, a university of all places, this isnt the act
of a peaceful people, this is the act of another fucking hitler


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9508846 - 12/28/08 07:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

KillerPicklez said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
concessions like frequent detainment and killing of palestinians at border checkpoints? refusal to allow
them to cross to get to their jobs or seek medical care?




If the Palestinians werent constantly committing suicide bombings inside Israel this wouldnt be happening. Israel has every right to enforce and protect their own border.





if israel wasnt continually trying to force the palestinians
into the sea, murdering, bombing and starving the palestinians,
trying to bulldoze their homes and just generally being
unpleasant, I'm sure they wouldnt feel the need to bomb the
fuck out of israel

it's a situation where both side believe their gods chosen
people and they want to exterminate the other, so who wins?




We've been over this already... god damn man. We all know that Muslims do not want anyone BUT Muslims controlling that area. They don't give a fuck if the Jews stop attacking. That just means it will be easier to take over that whole fucking region.


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9508849 - 12/28/08 07:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Madtowntripper said:
Do we actually agree on an issue?





probably not, I say let israel nuke the wast bank and gaza,
iran should nuke israel, turkey should take out iran, syria
and lebanon should hit turkey and each other and we should go
in and eliminate saudi arabia, kuwait and egypt while india
and pakistan obliterate each other... that's my solution to
peace in the middle east

does that sound a little more reasonable?



I finally agree with you


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9508854 - 12/28/08 07:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I think they are waiting for a specific date to strike, pris.


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9508858 - 12/28/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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hamas holds huge rallies with thousands of people showing up
in 'uniform', why the fuck doesnt israel just strike a few of
those if they're determined to eliminate hamas and minimalize
civilian casualties, they did 6 separate air strikes on a
single target, a university of all places, this isnt the act
of a peaceful people, this is the act of another fucking hitler




Which university? The one ran by Hamas?

How the fuck are you comparing Israel to Hitler? Prove the genocide or be quiet.


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9508891 - 12/28/08 07:09 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
we supply the IDF with 'smart bombs', precision tactical
devices capable of taking out and sort of military hardware
that hamas has with minimal collateral damage, hamas has
weapons that land in vacant fields and do little to harm
israeli citizens yet in these attacks more than 800 civilians
are killed including the bombing of a police station





link? I think you are grossly exaggerating


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #9508900 - 12/28/08 07:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
we supply the IDF with 'smart bombs', precision tactical
devices capable of taking out and sort of military hardware
that hamas has with minimal collateral damage, hamas has
weapons that land in vacant fields and do little to harm
israeli citizens yet in these attacks more than 800 civilians
are killed including the bombing of a police station





link? I think you are grossly exaggerating




It's 277 right now. He's making up bs as usual. And most of the deaths are Hamas as far as I know. Fuck Hamas.


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Re: Israel responds to Gaza/Hamas with deadly air raids [Re: downforpot]
    #9508904 - 12/28/08 07:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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We've been over this already... god damn man. We all know that Muslims do not want anyone BUT Muslims controlling that area.





and jews want no one but jews controlling the area, they're the same


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