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Hypothetical human life worth question
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Say there was a discovery of a substance that significantly increased the lifespan of a human, but the substance is very limited.

In your opinion who would deserve to have this over another?
What would qualify a person to have more worth than another?

Edited by giza (01/18/11 02:47 PM)

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: giza]
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giza said:
In your opinion who would deserve to have this over another?


Me.


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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: deCypher]
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It would be a triumph for the legal system: finally there would be no escaping into a, easy, comfortable death for prisoners who were sentenced to several normal lifetimes of imprisonment. :monkeydance:

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: amuzakat]
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Great, and how much more would that end up costing us tax-payers?


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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: amuzakat]
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amuzakat said:
It would be a triumph for the legal system: finally there would be no escaping into a, easy, comfortable death for prisoners who were sentenced to several normal lifetimes of imprisonment. :monkeydance:


I thought of that same thing, it would really turn people into law-abiding citizens, especially when they come out with a documentary on a guy that served 255 years... Only when this substance would become abundant enough that there would be enough for everyone.

Edited by giza (01/18/11 04:00 PM)

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: deCypher] * 1
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deCypher said:
giza said:
In your opinion who would deserve to have this over another?


Me.



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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: amuzakat]
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By how much would it increase their lifespan? and how limited would the supply be? I dont think everybody would necessarily want to increase their lifespan, depending on just how many years we're talking about. Regardless, I think scientists, and others working towards the betterment of our planet deserve to be around longer, so that they can continue to improve life for those that come after us. Perhaps a select few politicians who actually know what they're doing too.

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: giza] * 2
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i thought of warcraft.
who has the most hit points ?
the hero.
and.. he takes reduced damage from all types of attacks.

so..
what seemed to be a very difficult question to answer is now quite simple for this raging nerd here

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In your opinion who would deserve to have this over another?



people who are already genetically superior.
no point in elongating someones life whos going to get cancer in 10 years anyway or a number of other diseases.


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: Caspian021]
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say 50+ years.

I get what you're getting at with picking the scientists etc.. but wouldn't that increase of time have some sort of effect on the subject psychologically? I mean, say the scientist is of course very intelligent but has a negative outlook or persona.

I don't know the answer to the question but I'm thinking some sort of test, but who would be qualified to create the test or even judge who would get this privelage?

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: giza]
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giza said:
In your opinion who would deserve to have this over another?



No one IMO.

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What would qualify a person to have more worth than another?


Nothing IMO.

But what would happen is the same thing that happens to scarce items today.  The richest get them.


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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: giza]
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I suppose whoever creates/discovers the substance has the right to make the test. I wonder what the test could entail though, there's so many different aspects of what makes a human worthy or unworthy of an extended lifetime.

The idea of only the rich getting their hands on this is very realistic, as unfortunate as that is..

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: giza] * 1
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Icelander said:
deCypher said:
giza said:
In your opinion who would deserve to have this over another?


Me.



Besides this obvious (and correct) answer, I would think people who most closely have my value system and are most able to support my value system would be the most worthy.

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: Caspian021]
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Caspian021 said:
I suppose whoever creates/discovers the substance has the right to make the test. I wonder what the test could entail though, there's so many different aspects of what makes a human worthy or unworthy of an extended lifetime.

The idea of only the rich getting their hands on this is very realistic, as unfortunate as that is..


The rich getting it was the answer I thought was going to be the one said most which underlines one of the biggest problems of our society, instead of working together as a species most seem to try and rise over another, which may bring us to almost complete annhilation. IMO

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: giza]
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thats kind of how medicine is today. if you have more paper you get the better medicine the ones that really do help. i ono tho  :shrug:

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
Icelander said:
deCypher said:
giza said:
In your opinion who would deserve to have this over another?


Me.



Besides this obvious (and correct) answer, I would think people who most closely have my value system and are most able to support my value system would be the most worthy.



Of course, anything else is a lie. :satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: giza]
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The rich would be the only people who could afford it. Supply vs. demand, basic economics.

Who do I think should get it? No one.

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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: Icelander]
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Depends on the bucketlist imo


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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said:
Who do I think should get it? No one.


How dare you keep me from my increased life expectancy!  :shakefist:  Why do you think this?


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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: giza]
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giza said:
amuzakat said:
It would be a triumph for the legal system: finally there would be no escaping into a, easy, comfortable death for prisoners who were sentenced to several normal lifetimes of imprisonment. :monkeydance:


I thought of that same thing, it would really turn people into law-abiding citizens, especially when they come out with a documentary on a guy that served 255 years... Only when this substance would become abundant enough that there would be enough for everyone.


Interesting.. This is a consequence of the increase of human life expectancy that is likely to occur during this century that I had not considered.. Now if life extension is a scarce and expensive process, surely prisoners wouldn't be high on the list of recipients, but what if it were to become ubiquitous? What if you have someone sentenced to life, but there are now readily available cures to all known diseases and effects of aging? How then are the ethics of letting a prisoner die of "old age" different then letting them die from an easily treatable condition today just because they are a prisoner?

What crime is worthy of damning someone to a hypothetical eternity in a cage? Do we just start implementing the death penalty more, or do we let the serial killer free because his 500 years are up?

Granted, I think by the time this kind of medical technology is widespread, we will probably exist in a radically different social climate, so it's difficult to hypothesize about..


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Re: Hypothetical human life worth question [Re: giza]
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giza said:
Say there was a discovery of a substance that significantly increased the lifespan of a human, but the substance is very limited.

In your opinion who would deserve to have this over another?
What would qualify a person to have more worth than another?



What about people who's idea's and knowledge of how things work and have turned our world up side down? Like advanced physicists and scholars like Albert Einstein, or allowing some one like Stephen Hawking to being able to Finnish his work on decoding a black hole a fundamental building block of how the universe works and can exist

how about people who have the gift to invent materials to drastically improve our way of life?

like Craig Venter who created a synthetic life form and can map and re map and "program" if you will... DNA and have it or allow it to do or give or create traits we could find in benefit to the human race? (remap the human DNA so EVERYONE ...(newly born that is not you or I) can live longer) you could use that technology to create people. or give people who have predispositions to health issues genetically (i.e. heart disease Alzheimer ect...) a clean slate... a new bill of health and wiping genetic impurities from the human race... would these sort of people not be able to benefit the entire human race by being given extra time to continue there work?

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