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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: ]
    #1239607 - 01/22/03 12:35 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah that was kind of a stupid comment. Sorry.


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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: Revelation]
    #1240022 - 01/22/03 02:51 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

people with down syndrome should be sterilized so their damn genes stay out of the pool.


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verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #1240105 - 01/22/03 03:16 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks! Now you are on the target list.

Be careful about what you say to the others!

First warning!


Edited by Mr_Mushrooms (01/22/03 08:41 PM)


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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: ]
    #1240119 - 01/22/03 03:21 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

thats worse then selling drugs to kids at the play ground?  :smirk:


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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: Shroomism]
    #1240180 - 01/22/03 03:40 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

According to the Pleiadians, souls go through levels of life experience.

That is, we begin as a spiritual body (energy, or soul) as a consciousness.. in spiritual reality where we are at peace with all and exist eternally in the loving radiance of Creation and All That Is. Until it is decided to enter into physical reality in order to gain experience.

When a 'fresh' soul enters into its first physical body, it is clumsy and physically immature (inexperienced). These souls do not often live long, as they can barely take care of themselves or find food or water. Survival is the only focus, as it is quite difficult. They die early. Through the process of reincarnation, souls go through many cycles of life and death, gaining a little bit more experience each time along the way.

After many hundreds of lifetimes a soul has usually gained enough knowledge about the physical world and is beginning to think about spiritual concepts. Survival is hardly a concern, as the experienced soul is familiar with how to take care of the needs of the physical body. Spiritual matters become more important.

When an experienced soul looks upon a "new" soul, one who is in the first stages of physical experiences, they may appear to be "without a soul" or just plain stupid. This is not the case, as they are simply an immature spirit. They have not lived many hundreds of physical lifetimes to gain enough experience that they live comfortably in the material world. They are simply younger, and have gained less knowledge of the physical world than you. This does not make them inferior. We are all on our own paths of evolution, and we all go at different paces and learn different things at different times.


Fuckin WOW man!!!!! I never thought of it that way!!! Shroomism, you just enlightened an old soul!!!!!!! or so as I now think of myself as one.  :tongue: 


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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #1241425 - 01/23/03 01:51 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

down's syndrome is not due to their genes being in the gene pool...
it is called trisomy 21, and generally due to an aging mother (usually the mother, anyways) having an ovum with an extra 21st chromosome managing to get fertilized & gestated...
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which didn't stop the national socialist party in germany from not only sterilizing, but liquidating, many types of "mental defectives" (and other undesirable groups as well, such as mentally ill, homosexuals, communists, slavs, gypsies, jehovah's witnesses, and jews...)
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shucks, many places in the usa were in the practice of being pretty free with ordering state-ordered sterilizations, and not so long ago at that... ("eugenics board")


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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: gnrm23]
    #1241673 - 01/23/03 05:11 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

yeah I knew that, I was just being flipant. But I didn't know an aging mother could cause that.

"shucks, many places in the usa were in the practice of being pretty free with ordering state-ordered sterilizations, and not so long ago at that... ("eugenics board") "

really? I didn't know that. Could you add some info on that?


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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011


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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #1241830 - 01/23/03 06:41 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

oh my...
the incidence of trisomy 21 is definitely related to the age of the mother (since her ova are created during her in utero growth)(while spermatogenesis in her male partner is an ongoing process, and thus less subject to the effects of entropy on the "quality" of the genetic material...)
there are several other types of trisomy (and other polysomic and even unisomic disorders), many with their own special "syndrome" names, but individuals with those genetic disorders tend to be less viable than the down's syndrome "kids" (and they tend to die off by the time they are in their twenties, and often do not marry or have kids...)
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as for state-ordered sterilization.. well, if you were female, in trouble with the authorities, diagnosed with some sort of deal like "mentally retarded" or "schizoaffective disorder" or some other "bad brain" type deal, and were poor and/or of a minority race... even 20 years ago, in many states, you could have beena prime candidate for tubal ligation, or other irreversible sterilization procedure...
and of course, nowadays, some of the survivors/victims of these surgeries are finding lawyers who will help them sue the state, or the hospital, or the social worker/welfare agent, or wherever the $$$ might be...
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i dunno, try a googlesearch with words like "eugenics" and "sterilization" and "welfare"...
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then again, my dad suggests that for
welfare moms" who have like 6 kids so they can get plenty of state $$$ be required to accept tubal ligation if they are on state support and have a second kid... (should the state have the right to force this on citizens? should citizens have the right to have too many kids just so they can be paid by the state for raising a crop of "bastards"? and what of the fathers of all these surplus poor? strange times, indeed...)
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in china, back in chairman mao's time, women who had more than 1 child were often subject to mandatory abortion & subsequent sterilization procedures...
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in the good ol' usa, this sort of thing prolly started in like the 1920s or so, and _maybe_ ended by the 1970s...
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then there's voting "bread and circuses" --- how about if the usa re-institued the "pauper's oath"? ...if you want to be allowed to vote, you must be a taxpayer of record (& not on the dole)?


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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: gnrm23]
    #1241957 - 01/23/03 07:15 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I believe it's possible for anyone without one to grow a soul, but since they have only one short human lifespan to do it in, many don't realize their spiritual potential.


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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: Shroomism]
    #1241983 - 01/23/03 07:25 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

All beings of consciousness have a soul.

I was also certain of this "fact" a few months ago. Always try to keep an open mind to any possibility. Now, if you're referring to soul essense, ie. etheric substance, then even the dirt we walk on has that. But I still believe it's possible that some sentient beings don't have a sentient soul body, though they certainly have the chance to develop one.


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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: Revelation]
    #1242002 - 01/23/03 07:32 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

It's my personal belief that the mentally and physically disabled chose such a path pre-incarnation in order to learn vital lessons of love and caring from those who would show same to them.

But... if, theoretically, souled and non-souled people are intermarried then any person born disabled may not have a soul.


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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: ]
    #1242026 - 01/23/03 07:39 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Did you read my reply about how lesser developed beings (experience wise) who are often focused on the lower chakras are not aware of their soul. Can you at least entertain the notion that all beings may have souls, but that some may simply not be as developed through many lifetimes of experience? Did you read the 7 levels of Human Evolution?


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Re: Humans without souls? [Re: Shroomism]
    #1242065 - 01/23/03 07:50 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I'm open to any and all possibilities.


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