vjp said:

DieCommie said:

Mr. Mushrooms said:

Got it good?  By whose standard?

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Either.  Dont make the mistake of using one culture's metric to judge another culture's way of life.

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What does this mean? Are you implying that Indians have it good by their standards?

They live in prisoner of war camps ("Reservations") that were created on infertile land. Nearly all the bison on their land were killed, their woman were raped, and White people broke every treaty they ever signed with the Indians.

1863 the largest mass execution in American history took place. Lincoln ordered 38 Indians executed two days after signing the emancipation proclamation.

1890 Sioux village with over 300 Indians (woman and children included) were surrounded and killed with using the hotchkiss gun. Twenty Congressional Medals of Honor for Valor were given to the 7th Calvary for their incredible ability to slaughter so many innocent woman and children. This is more than any other battle in US history. (Yes, this includes Vietnam, world wars 1 and 2, Korea, Iraq, and Afghanistan)

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OrgoneConclusion said:

I always look forward to your deep and well-thought contributions.

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You may be one of the few here that truly appreciates me.

vjp said:

dokunai said:

I've heard it said that if Native Americans were left undisturbed that by the year 5500AD their techology level would just barely allow them to create inland fish hatcheries.

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You need to stop going to KKK meetings thats fucking ridiculous.

dokunai said:

Sorry, but get the fuck out the way?  This land is too valuable to let it be a preserve for backwards ass cavedwellers who would rather spend their days banging rocks together.

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Indians survived thousands of years by banging rocks together, great logic. You obviously know absolutely nothing about the history of Indians or their culture.

Lets destroy billions of years of evolution so we can have pointless material objects and print millions of 100 dollar bills, then we will be happy, successful and live fulfilling lives.

Tell your Klan brothers i said 

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Icelander said:

OrgoneConclusion said:

I always look forward to your deep and well-thought contributions.

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You may be one of the few here that truly appreciates me.

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One of the few?  Quit exaggerating. He's the only one. 

DAREtoTHINK said:

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ThaBoas said:

I haven't read most of the replies here, however -

I think that we shouldn't forget that the Native Americans stole land from other tribes - food, women, children..etc.

I think also - a definition of "just" needs to be met before one could enter into a conversation about it.

Justice can be many things - and is a vague term.

Within the government, you have malum in se and malum prohibitum laws.  Slavery for instance - was once legal.  It is not legal now although we are all slaves.

Ambiguity causes much disruption in discussions such as this.

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ThaBoas said:

I haven't read most of the replies here, however -

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ThaBoas said:

I think that we shouldn't forget that the Native Americans stole land from other tribes - food, women, children..etc.

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ThaBoas said:

I think also - a definition of "just" needs to be met before one could enter into a conversation about it.

Justice can be many things - and is a vague term.

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vjp said:

DieCommie said:

Mr. Mushrooms said:

Got it good?  By whose standard?

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Either.  Dont make the mistake of using one culture's metric to judge another culture's way of life.

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What does this mean? Are you implying that Indians have it good by their standards?

They live in prisoner of war camps...

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Unfortunately, many of my family members are Sioux and their ancestors did in fact war over land, food, women, and children.  In fact, like most ethnicities found throughout the world, they participated in slavery of their  own kind as well.

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Mr. Mushrooms said:

Icelander said:

OrgoneConclusion said:

I always look forward to your deep and well-thought contributions.

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You may be one of the few here that truly appreciates me.

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One of the few?  Quit exaggerating. He's the only one. 

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Now you're just being silly. I appreciate me too.

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when the Normans invaded Ireland they were so attraced to the Irish life-style entire fleets converted and adopted it.. becoming "more Irish then the irish themselves"

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