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How do I know I exist?
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:crankdre:?


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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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you think yourself into existence. apart from that you are but a figment of your own imagination.

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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I think therefor I am  :discorex:

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: noticeofeviction]
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the fact that you have physical body should be an indicator?


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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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Lay your pee pee on an anvil then hit it really hard with a hammer. Question answered.


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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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what if you dont have a pee pee?


shove a red hot fire poker in ye cooch?


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Jesus loves you.

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: andrewss]
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The pain could be imaginary too. :happyweed:


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My solitude...
My shield...
My armour...

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: circastes]
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But it would sure FEEL REAL, and for a moment, silence retarded questions.


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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Lay your pee pee on an anvil then hit it really hard with a hammer.

Woah! I didn't know you were into that stuff. TMI ! :whoa:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: Diploid]
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You never had a peencake?


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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Mmmmm cake:drooling:


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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: BluePixieWaves]
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BluePixieWaves said:
Mmmmm cake:drooling:



Cake?!  :excitedseal:


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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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You know that ice cream, tits and nice juicy, fat ladies asses in all sorts of colours exists.

For you to be able to know that, you must exist.

Ergo, you exist.

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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You don't exist in the way you think you do. Because if you did you would never have been born. You would have always existed. Since you think you were born, you must have not existed before. How could you possibly exist not having existed before. Therefor you couldn't have not existed either.

The correct answer, logically speaking, is:
  • you don't exist
  • you don't not exist
  • you don't exist and not exist
  • you don't neither exist nor not exist


There just is, logically speaking, no valid argument to prove any of these four conditions to be ultimately true.

Sorry. :shrug:

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: Ahimsa]
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Ahimsa said:
You don't exist in the way you think you do. Because if you did you would never have been born. You would have always existed. Since you think you were born, you must have not existed before. How could you possibly exist not having existed before. Therefor you couldn't have not existed either.

The correct answer, logically speaking, is:
  • you don't exist
  • you don't not exist
  • you don't exist and not exist
  • you don't neither exist nor not exist


There just is, logically speaking, no valid argument to prove any of these four conditions to be ultimately true.

Sorry. :shrug:



I have a feeling of deja vu to old school Indian thought here. Besides the wording, you have in common that the old champs also rarely cared to "prove" the premises for many of their arguments. Just starting out talking about "existence" as if it by definition has to be something eternal etc. Nagarjuna etc. I still like the old chums, but from a logical point of view they're just presenting a big string of nonsense unless you accept their basic premises, which unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint, are mostly pretty far fetched.

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: amuzakat]
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amuzakat said:
Ahimsa said:
You don't exist in the way you think you do. Because if you did you would never have been born. You would have always existed. Since you think you were born, you must have not existed before. How could you possibly exist not having existed before. Therefor you couldn't have not existed either.

The correct answer, logically speaking, is:
  • you don't exist
  • you don't not exist
  • you don't exist and not exist
  • you don't neither exist nor not exist


There just is, logically speaking, no valid argument to prove any of these four conditions to be ultimately true.

Sorry. :shrug:



I have a feeling of deja vu to old school Indian thought here. Besides the wording, you have in common that the old champs also rarely cared to "prove" the premises for many of their arguments. Just starting out talking about "existence" as if it by definition has to be something eternal etc. Nagarjuna etc. I still like the old chums, but from a logical point of view they're just presenting a big string of nonsense unless you accept their basic premises, which unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint, are mostly pretty far fetched.



I feel that Nagarjuna used logic in a way that enables thought to become detached from its own views. He's pointing at some universal principle of truth the old school used to call 'wisdom'. Perhaps, ultimately, wisdom for one is foolishness to another?!
Thanks for responding. I always like to hear other peoples opinion about Nagarjuna especially.

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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If you do not exist, then who or what is asking "How do I know I exist?"?

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Lay your pee pee on an anvil then hit it really hard with a hammer. Question answered.



Is pain (and cheesecake) the only way to know you exist?


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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: WScott] * 1
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yes


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: How do I know I exist? [Re: Icelander]
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Soooooooo by trying to alleviate suffering, one is trying to forget about themselves?


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