JackthaTripper said:

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Akira said:

Are more people vegeterian because its a healthier choice of eating or due to moral principals abouts killing animals?

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KetamineKatalyst said:

If I'm dead, feel free to fuck, eat, do whatever to my body. I've thought about donating my dead body to some necropheliac organization

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KroniclyHigh said:

you could easily still eat meat and be just as healthy.

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TeamAmerica said:

KroniclyHigh said:

you could easily still eat meat and be just as healthy.

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Definitely not, your body was made to eat and run well on a vegetarian diet..

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Akira said:

while vegetarianism is only an idea that we have recently conceived in the last few hundred years of our philosophical history.
How about at least 7000 years,its ok, most people arent good with history
I'ma stick to billions of years of biological evolution and say vegetarianism is a silly silly idea....Well humans haven't evolved for billions of years...but yes carnivorous animals have evolved to eat meat...but it seems humans aren't exactly carnivorous animals...Imma stick with my intuition and love for all life, instead of getting boners off of burger king commercials

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Prisoner#1 said:

TeamAmerica said:

KroniclyHigh said:

you could easily still eat meat and be just as healthy.

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Definitely not, your body was made to eat and run well on a vegetarian diet..

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no

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We have had this argument before...

TeamAmerica said:

Well humans haven't evolved for billions of years...but yes carnivorous animals have evolved to eat meat...but it seems humans aren't exactly carnivorous animals...

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Prisoner#1 said:

TeamAmerica said:

Well humans haven't evolved for billions of years...but yes carnivorous animals have evolved to eat meat...but it seems humans aren't exactly carnivorous animals...

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we had to have evolved for billions of years, we didnt just pop out of the
asses of dinosaurs as they were dying, we had to have started somewhere,
billions of years ago some proteins and other assorted crap had a romantic
dinner, the amino acids didnt pull out and that was the very start of life,
we evolved from that life

primates that could first be described as the ancestors of man,
Australopithecus is dated back more than 3.5 million years, they've been
determined to be omnivorous, primarily fruits since they didnt eat you
when you hunted them, as weapons were developed so did the consumption
of more meat

the human body evolved to eat meat

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Human origin is a different debate.

Im not saying that the human body cannot digest and ultimately live off of meat...

Im not saying that our ancestors that weren't smart enough to use the convenience of farming nutritious plants to feed their bodies didn't result to killing other animals...I understand this.

But all intelligent civilizations used plants, and understood they were nutritious thousands and thousands of years ago.

It seems a lot of the hunting died out with the increase in brain size or was limited to less advanced civilizations

TeamAmerica said:

Im not saying that the human body cannot digest and ultimately live off of meat...

Im not saying that our ancestors that weren't smart enough to use the convenience of farming nutritious plants to feed their bodies didn't result to killing other animals...I understand this.

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But all intelligent civilizations used plants, and understood they were nutritious thousands and thousands of years ago.

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It seems a lot of the hunting died out with the increase in brain size or was limited to less advanced civilizations

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Dietary quality is correlated with brain size.  Foley and Lee first consider brain size vs. primate feeding strategies, and note that folivorous diets (leaves) are correlated with smaller brains, while fruit and animal foods (insects, meat) are correlated with larger brains. The energetic costs, both daily and cumulative, of brains in humans and chimps, over the first 1-5 years of life are then compared. They note [Foley and Lee 1991, p. 226]:

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Prisoner#1 said:

TeamAmerica said:

Im not saying that the human body cannot digest and ultimately live off of meat...

Im not saying that our ancestors that weren't smart enough to use the convenience of farming nutritious plants to feed their bodies didn't result to killing other animals...I understand this.

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agriculture is only about 10,000 years old, prior to that it was all foraging and hunting

Yes I understand this...Agriculture will obviously be the next step of any intelligent civilizations in any moment of time.

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But all intelligent civilizations used plants, and understood they were nutritious thousands and thousands of years ago.

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so who were the nutritionists of ancient sumeria, many of these
vegetarian claism are just ludicrous, you're claiming that modern man
isnt an intelligent civilization but some folks living in caves were

It's actually the Aryans im talking about...The vedic teachings that were passed down to modern Hinduism...But im sure some sects of Sumerians practiced vegetarianism, as they were quite intelligent.

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It seems a lot of the hunting died out with the increase in brain size or was limited to less advanced civilizations

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actually you've got it backwards, because of our intake of proteins
our brains have grown,Eating increased amounts of Protein has nothing to do with brain size evolution..It is obviously much more complicated than that...IN other words...the missing link isn't meat consumption ... as our brains have grown our hunting increased
because we developed weapons to make hunting easier, thus our meat
intake increase...Our primate cousins if you want to talk about evolution in proper terms, actually had SHARP front teeth that were used to hunt animals, the species of monkey that we are more closesly related to ate more of a vegetarious diet as you explained earlier, thus larger brains sizes. We eat meat because of our technology, not because our bodies were designed for, or long for it. Our POTENTIAL meat intake was increased...not all civilizations ate NEAR the amounts of meat the modern day does...mostly America... today agriculture now covers our meats so hunting has
been reduced per capita but it's increased overall because of the
population

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Dietary quality is correlated with brain size.Never argued this point  Foley and Lee first consider brain size vs. primate feeding strategies, and note that folivorous diets (leaves) are correlated with smaller brains, while fruit and animal foods (insects, meat) are correlated with larger brains.How is this even relevant?...vegetarianism includes the consumption of more than just leaves. The energetic costs, both daily and cumulative, of brains in humans and chimps, over the first 1-5 years of life are then compared. They note

twighead said:

Humans always have and always will be omnivorous

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Well who knows where evolution will take us...but yes I think we all understand this...kool story bro

Druggie04 said:

I consider myself an animal lover.  I love animals.  I love nature.  A few animals I am emotionally invested in, but to me death is not a bad thing.  I felt no wrong when I caught, cleaned, and ate a bunch of catfish this weekend.  They were delicious and its all just part of the cycle of life.  My dog is one of my best friends.

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Leanin said:

and FUCK being vegetarian lol.

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Why?