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Can you truly be an animal lover...
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...and not be a vegetarian. 


How can you love all animals but kill them at the same time?


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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: JackthaTripper]
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Yes, just like you can be a vegetarian and not love animals.

Things aren't always black and white.

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: LoveYourLife]
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LoveYourLife said:
Yes, just like you can be a vegetarian and not love animals.

Things aren't always black and white.

Vegetarians kill animals as well... I'm not too big on eating most meats though. I like chicken and turkey meat but for the most part I'm into veggies and fruits.


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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: LoveYourLife]
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How can you love something that you perpetually kill?


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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: JackthaTripper]
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Of course you can. But what drove me away from eating meat was the fact that I am a huge animal lover and it started feeling very wrong due to that.


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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: Maurer]
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I for one love animals and hate the abuse that the major distributors put them through before they make it to our plates.

But I don't eat enough other types of food to solely be a vegetarian.

So there is one scenario right there.

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: JackthaTripper]
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I love animals, especially how good they taste. Come on, people have been eating meat for thousands of years, and in the wild animals eat each other all the time. We're not doing anything unnatural. Have you seen a deer getting eaten by wolves? Compared to that, how we kill and eat animals is totally humane. Not all animals are the same. I would never eat a dog, but a cow? Hell yes. There wouldn't even be as many cows on earth as there are if we didn't eat them.

Not to mention, have you ever owned a chicken? They are dirt dumb. Cute, but dumber than a rock, and mean. They barely even count as alive.

Edited by nooneman (07/01/10 08:57 PM)

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: claraclairvoyant]
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This was my catalyst as well...I don't know the answer to my question.

Obviously one could love animals that they know, their dogs, looking at birds...ect.  But to TRULY be an animal lover don't you love all animals, even those not directly in your life?  Wouldn't one love the animals being served at restaurants before they were killed, and knowing that ultimately they were killed because you paid money to eat them, this would cause the animal lover to cease this killing of that in which they love?


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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: JackthaTripper]
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My semen bitches about the same irony.

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: Arden]
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How can someone love plants yet perpetually kill them?

I have accepted that I must get my energy from another life form. When I worked at a produce farm I felt bad for harvesting micro greens (which are just baby plants) or lettuces. They're living things too.

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: TTT]
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TTT said:
How can someone love plants yet perpetually kill them?

I have accepted that I must get my energy from another life form. When I worked at a produce farm I felt bad for harvesting micro greens (which are just baby plants) or lettuces. They're living things too.


Good point.

It's the circleeeeeeeee of life.

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: TTT]
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I love animals but I am very fond of eating meat.  That doesn't mean that I agree with the way that they are mass-bred and chopped up for our pleasure.  It also doesn't enter your mind because you are not the one who killed it. I am just a consumer who happens to love animals.


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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: Herbologist]
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Are more people vegeterian because its a healthier choice of eating or due to moral principals abouts killing animals?


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"Our intention is our eternal fingerprint in the universe."

We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: Herbologist]
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I'm like a murderer I kill what I eat.


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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: JackthaTripper]
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JackthaTripper said:
How can you love something that you perpetually kill?

Maybe I don't have love for the species that I eat? :shrug:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: nooneman] * 1
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nooneman said:
I love animals, especially how good they taste. Come on, people have been eating meat for thousands of years, and in the wild animals eat each other all the time. We're not doing anything unnatural. Have you seen a deer getting eaten by wolves? Compared to that, how we kill and eat animals is totally humane. Not all animals are the same. I would never eat a dog, but a cow? Hell yes. There wouldn't even be as many cows on earth as there are if we didn't eat them.

Not to mention, have you ever owned a chicken? They are dirt dumb. Cute, but dumber than a rock, and mean. They barely even count as alive.


why are you pitching an argument against a question? why are ya trying to convince him that eating animals is natural? all he/she asked is if you can truly be an animal lover while eating animals.

Also, you hint to a major problem with loving.

You value a dogs life over a cows, for a dog is more 'deserving' of your love.

To me it seems you have no compassion towards animals. Not saying that is bad or good, just observing.




And to the OP, I think that maybe you can love animals and kill them for their meat. I think (or at least movies/stereotypes have convinced me) that maybe Native Americans loved animals. I feel that if you respect the animals and the significance of taking their life to feed yourself, you can love animals while sacrificing them to yourself.

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: Poid]
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The question is arbitrary. I love many human beings, yet Id eat a fellow human if biological survival depended on it. Their is over 100,000 million years of meat eating in your genetic ancestry, while vegetarianism is only an idea that we have recently conceived in the last few hundred years of our philosophical history. I'ma stick to billions of years of biological evolution and say vegeterianism is a silly silly idea....


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Orissa India Bulk Grow (Tub Tek)
Bulk Steamer Pasteurizer Tek

"Our intention is our eternal fingerprint in the universe."

We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
JackthaTripper said:
How can you love something that you perpetually kill?

Maybe I don't have love for the species that I eat? :shrug:

Well I think we should eat people in that case :thumbup:


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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: Maurer]
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Don't mind if I do.



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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Can you truly be an animal lover... [Re: JackthaTripper]
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I think the majority of people that say "I love animals but I love meat" couldn't slaughter/butcher the animal themself.

I wanted to have livestock for a bit of cash + meat, I bought 2 cows... after about 2 hours I decided I could never kill them :thumbdown: :crankey:

Now they just run around, eat grass, chill under trees and moo :sun:

I could never kill a cow, sheep, pig or chicken... so when I finally get out of the city centers I'll most definitely be going vegetarian.

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Have you seen a deer getting eaten by wolves? Compared to that, how we kill and eat animals is totally humane.


HAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I don't want to get off-topic though, so lets move on :vaped:

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