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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4189144 - 05/17/05 10:10 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Oh I live in a repressed sexual state called Utah..well mainly this county is that way for sure...Salt Lake is different, I always wanted to do more men..or threesomes..whatever the combonation. I just worry about what family thinks...but who cares now..I have been so horny lately I could be bottom or top..
I know europeans like that group sex..I can get free porn..I look at all kinds except beast and scat pics..in fact i like to look at gay pron, lez porn, bi porn..any combonation, and want to try it..
Hey I am zee skunk, I love to cum ohh, I am surprized I haven't done more...I am not french I just like to french kiss....and more..
French kissing is the shit too, regular kissing is for sexuallly repressed people... :grin: :sun:


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4189163 - 05/17/05 10:17 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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So, I had my third or fourth non-drug related spiritual experience today.  I stopped smoking pot a few days ago (I decided not to smoke until the new shpongle album so that I could get super ripped when the new album came out before I give it a spin!).  This morning I was hungry, so I went to my bag of chicken fajita jerky and grabbed a piece.  It hit me very clearly that eating meat is wrong.  Since we are all one, and not seperate from our environment, the harm from eating and farming meat is clearly harm we are inflicting on ourselves.  It felt sort of indescribable, but kind of like I became a little bit detached and aware that eating meat feeds the illusion that we are seperate from our environment, since in order to enjoy meat, you have to pretend like it didn't come from cruelly slaughtered animals raised in horrid conditions.  I feel like I can no longer grow spiritually while constantly ignoring the fact that meat causes so much suffering to so many living things. 

So, I don't want to eat any more meat.  I've flirted with vegetarianism before, once when in jr high which lasted a year and a half, but when I didn't care about still eating right, and once a couple months ago, where my rule was not to support the meat industry, but eat it if it was free or going to go to waste.  Now, I am more serious about it.  I got a good vegetarian cookbook.  I read up on how to make sure to get all your vitamins.  But, still, I realize it will be harder then I think at first, and I want to make sure I do everything I can to not go back to eating dead pieces of beautiful living things where I would see suffering in their eyes were I the one that killed them.

But now some vegetarian shroomerites need to give a new veggie some advice they wish they were told when they first stopped eatng meat.  :laugh:



stay away from thai food. a lot of their dishes use a fish sauce which they do not tell you about.
also a lot of soups are made with beef stock.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4189227 - 05/17/05 10:32 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Oh yea sorry about last night I was drunk and obnoxious...I get that way after about 6 beers..


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4189237 - 05/17/05 10:35 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

:thumbup: :thumbup:

Wish I could do it man.  Respect.





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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Learyfan]
    #4189438 - 05/18/05 12:06 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Good luck - i too am moving towards the same path - When i eat meat lately i feel grossly sick and gassey, almost on the verge of vomitting.

Having eaten and loved meat for 18 years its challenging to quit - but over the past year ive become ever more obsessed with the pollution of my system through drugged animals, factory farming techniques, and the virtues of vegetarian and raw foodist lifestyles.

Its hard... Its so hard to avoid. Sometimes i think my physical reactions are psychosomatic.

Im sick at the moment and just got back from travelling - and am overcoming a cold - When im healthy again im doing Stanley burroughs Master Cleanse... and am looking to start a vegetarian diet. Luckily ive got enough money to sustain myself and pay my rent.. so throughout the cleanse i think ill do alot of reading/thinking/preparing towards more ever-needed lifestyle changes.

The first steps are hard to take!


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: headset]
    #4190132 - 05/18/05 07:40 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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i too am moving towards the same path - When i eat meat lately i feel grossly sick and gassey, almost on the verge of vomitting




As do I, and for no specific reason, my stomach just doesn't take it anymore. Yeah, I eat meat twice a week and I don't plan on stoping my fish comsumption, but I can safely say the I feel a lot better than when I used to eat meat everyday. A little less energetic, but healthier. :thumbup:


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #4190235 - 05/18/05 08:29 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

okay uhm - i've been a vegetarian for hmmm... shit 8 years now!!! woohoo for me.

if you say or ever hear a vegetarian or vegan saying they were not healthy b/c of the diet - it's because they didn't know what to eat. it's hard to understand what benefits your body when it's easier to eat fries, pasta and a frozen veggie burger everyday and still be considered a vegetarian.

IF you have any questions - ask me. i cook a lot to get what i need. i also buy fresh, whole foods.

listen - if Ironman Triathlete Brendan Brazier can be vegan and still do all the amazing things he does - then it's OBVIOUS that the diet isn't unhealthy - it's what you choose to eat within the diet.

as far as vegetable crying... stop. you aren't justifying the killing, torturing and MURDERING of animals. also - to get more involved in the situation, over-fishing hurts a LOT more than just the fish you eat. It kills natural predators. In Japan there was MASSIVE slayings of dolphins because they were eating the fish that the Japanese fishermen were trying to catch. So instead of thinking "Hey... maybe this is a result of us OVER FISHING" they decided to murder HUNDREDS of dolphins. The same goes for Killer Whales (or Orchas) in Norway.

Also - I would be careful about eating sea life considering they found out Killer Whales (mostly the male population) are dying from an AIDs type of disease because the water is SO polluted, their meat and tissue has become saturated with the pollutant and has caused them to die. They are living toxic waste now. If a whale that big is affected like that - how about the tiny little fish u eat?

If you don't care about animal rights, think about yourself and the future generations. The problems that mass production farmers are causing (a greenhouse effect in the rise of methane gases b/c of WAY too many cattle being forced to breed for food).

There are just so many reasons to be vegetarian/vegan... however i'm not one to preach - i will speak my mind and if you choose, after listening to all of this and understanding the effects, if you choose to eat meat - that's your choice and i move on.

HOWEVER... congrats on your vegetarianism... it's amazing and i am healthier than ever (i go to the doctor for blood tests... my mom STILL doesn't trust it but i'm always 100% healthy).

If you need any great recipes... let me know. i have a ton that i have tested and given to even meat eaters who couldn't get enough!!


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: headset]
    #4190238 - 05/18/05 08:31 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

btw - at the age of 50... the average male has about 10 POUNDS of undigested meat in his system. it is obvious we are not really suppose to eat meat because our intestines are much longer than any other meat eater. a meat eater's intestines are short so the flesh and meat does not stay in the body long enough to rot. Our intestines are QUITE long... which leaves plenty of time to rot. rotting flesh... ugh. yucky.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Delyrium]
    #4190242 - 05/18/05 08:33 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Im going to mcdonalds to get me a hamburger.

No offense


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4190243 - 05/18/05 08:34 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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SHEIKofSHIITAKE said:
Thats why i eat free range. They live a good life until its their day to go.





technically - even if it is labeled "free-range" that could mean the chicken has 2 feet of space to run around. half the time the chickens are so mentally damaged that they do not even see the light of day because of fear of stepping out of their cages. unfortunately... many "free-range" products are not the happy, sunny farm you would hope for. if anything - i suggest local farmers. you can see the farm, how it's all done, and if you believe it's up to your standard of ethics then purchase your meat. also - supporting family farms are CRUCIAL!


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: KahSol]
    #4190246 - 05/18/05 08:36 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Im going to mcdonalds to get me a hamburger.

No offense




no offense taken but is it necessary to post that in a thread about vegetarianism? ya... i think not.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4190258 - 05/18/05 08:45 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Check out this post: einstein's opinion
Many opinions in there and usefull info too, i think it worths reading and is a good laugh at points


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Delyrium]
    #4190424 - 05/18/05 10:17 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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btw - at the age of 50... the average male has about 10 POUNDS of undigested meat in his system. it is obvious we are not really suppose to eat meat because our intestines are much longer than any other meat eater. a meat eater's intestines are short so the flesh and meat does not stay in the body long enough to rot. Our intestines are QUITE long... which leaves plenty of time to rot. rotting flesh... ugh. yucky.




yeah, that's nasty.

no wonder why meat eaters are 30-40% more likely to get colon cancer.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Vvellum]
    #4190457 - 05/18/05 10:28 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

So got any tips to help us adapt to a new way of life?


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: headset]
    #4190502 - 05/18/05 10:41 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

legumes, fresh vegetables, flax seed, bulk rice and beans, fruits, nuts, tofu....

eat fresh
avoid preservatives [crap]
avoid processed foods as much as possible
begin to cook for yourself - it is way cheaper than fast or processed foods - just requires some patience and an openmind.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4190696 - 05/18/05 11:44 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Thats good for you. I enjoy meat seldom and spend a lot of time cooking vegetarian dishes; I LOVE soy products. There is so much you can do with tofu and it's been delightful to experiment with. I recommend grabbing a tofu cookbook. Treat it like meat basically, and spice it up..it's great in so many dishes.

Also soy milk IMO is so much tastier than real milk. Get the creamy kind and mmm..and it is so good for you too. Another great vegetarian cookbook is called The Moosewood Cookbook. Its amazing.

Good Luck!


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Delyrium]
    #4190800 - 05/18/05 12:10 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Delyrium said:
btw - at the age of 50... the average male has about 10 POUNDS of undigested meat in his system.




I'm all for talking about how bad meat is, but my BS meter just went off the chart. Do you know how much pain someone is in with just 1 pound of blockage in their system? This just isn't true.

I'm gonna go get some tofu and start cooking with it soon. Right now I am going to eat some organic cereal with vanilla soy milk.

What about that ingredient in cheese called rennet that comes from cow tummies? What cheese is off limits to vegetarians?


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4193219 - 05/18/05 10:22 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I started eating salad more, just thinking about it..years of eating too much meat..I will cut down more but not all the way...


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4193847 - 05/19/05 12:58 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

but I still will eat meat, fish is great it has hardly any fat or other shit...I eat salad too, it makes me like a damn rabbit, eh whats up doc?? isnt bugs so damn cute you would want to fuck him senceless?? I had that fantacy too...:lol:


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Jenny]
    #4194469 - 05/19/05 07:58 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Another great vegetarian cookbook is called The Moosewood Cookbook. Its amazing.

Good Luck!




that's so funny u mentioned this book. for secret santa at work last year someone got me that book - it's just SO BIG that i haven't been able to look and pick out what to cook. hehe. any suggestions from the book? also - i am cooking for my meat eater boyfriend... if he doesnt like something i make, he goes and makes himself chicken noodle soup. lol.


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