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silversoul7
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Oh, fuck that! Milk 0wnz j00.
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Psilocybeingzz


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I used to drink it out of the jug and chug it straight.
I also used to have tons of pimples and other health problems.
Herbal teas(certain mixes), no white sugar and no MILK, cured that though.
Female peach owns me milk is cow pusshitpissetcetcetc
dont belive me 
www.notmilk.com
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silversoul7
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I'm not sure, but judging by the url, I think that site might be a bit biased.
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Psilocybeingzz


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So what????
This is a simple issue, read the facts, and check the sources and the doctors that agree etc
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I usually drink soy milk. I especially like the brand Silk. It just tastes damn good, and also doesn't give me that phlegmyness(is that a word?) in my throat like real milk. Their chocolate soy milk is REALLY good too!
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Dude, it's not like you would be restricted to just eating lettuce and cabbage and carrots 
There's LOTS of other stuff... there's all kinds of fruit there's all kinds of pasta there's all kinds of beans there's all kinds of rice there's all kinds of vegatables there's all kinds of dairy products there's all kinds of grain products there's all kinds of seafood
Open your eyes and expand your horizons... 
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I personally am proud to be an omnivore . Mother nature gave me insissors for shreading meat , and mollars for grinding vegies , this is what makes us such a versatile and addaptive species . Well one of them anyways . Veggies require the use of resources also , just as much as rasiing a cow in some cases . And just as harmfull , depending on the source of said veggies , commercially grown ones contain pesticides , bacteria , harmful metals , and now with genetically engineered ones (to aid in feeding the masses ) , who knows these side effects yet ....... Choice people is the key word , there is no wrong and no right life is based on the dying of other species for survival of all species . There is also an old saying that kind of applies "To much of any one thing can be harmfull , no matter how good it seems " , so Balance is the key to life . Just a thought , sorry if I invoked anger in any of you . Trip n D
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silversoul7
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I understand your reasoning here, but the reason why it takes more resources to produce meat is because you also have to grow veggies to feed the livestock, rather than just growing them to feed people.
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http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0577.html
See, that's your problem. Everything you post is always so one-sided. Yes, milk has its downside, but it also has its health benefits. Anyway, even if it were as bad as you say, I don't care. I'm not in this for my health, and I'm certainly not trying to be some Vegan nazi.
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tripndicular
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Land for crops takes up a lot of space , water to hydrate , fertilizer (from animals) to nourish them, farmer getting dirty , truck to ship them . Sounds like a vicious circle to me , one hand washes the other , and both require time and resources to put them on our tables . So this is poor reason to down meat eaters , by saying their "choice" of eating habits takes more energy from Mother Earth . B A L A N C E ! Nature is nothing more than a finely tuned balancing act , and we must all do our part to keep it in balance . Take what you give , and give back more than you take . Life would be so grand if that was the case !
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silversoul7
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Land for crops takes up a lot of space , water to hydrate , fertilizer (from animals) to nourish them, farmer getting dirty , truck to ship them . Sounds like a vicious circle to me , one hand washes the other , and both require time and resources to put them on our tables . So this is poor reason to down meat eaters , by saying their "choice" of eating habits takes more energy from Mother Earth .
You're not listening. Yes, crops take up space and water, but you have to grow way more crops to feed all the animals that we eat than you would to just feed ourselves with them. Educate yourself about the first and second laws of thermodynamics. Much more energy is lost when you eat a primary consumer(herbivore) than when you eat a producer(plant). This means that you have to have a lot more producers(plants) to feed more primary consumers(herbivores). I've been learning all about this in my environmental studies class(and no, the teacher isn't a vegetarian).
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B A L A N C E ! Nature is nothing more than a finely tuned balancing act , and we must all do our part to keep it in balance . Take what you give , and give back more than you take . Life would be so grand if that was the case !
I agree that balance is key, but the way people are eating in America is very unbalanced. The world population is growing exponentially, and eventually we will reach the point where the environment cannot sustain us any longer. The amount of human growth the environment can sustain depends largely on our resource production, and since it takes much more energy to produce meat than to produce fruits and vegetables, we could sustain more human growth if we cut down on our meat consumption. I don't even think I'm going to go completely vegetarian. I'm just going to try to cut down my meat consumption. Also, I sincerely hope that you don't think I'm dissing on meat-eaters. I'm not one of those PETA nazis that thinks that eating meat is evil. Hell, I'm cutting down on meat in my diet so you don't have to.
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Psilocybeingzz


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Veggies require the use of resources also , just as much as rasiing a cow in some cases .
Really and what veggies would those be????
ONE TON POTATOS????
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Psilocybeingzz


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See, that's your problem. Everything you post is always so one-sided.
Not true, like I said I dont think eating meat is SO BAD, when the meat is raised well, your just whining about what I said in OTD...... Anyway...I am not a "vegan nazi" I am not even vegan and up until recently I ATE CHICKEN AND TURKEY etc, now I stick to free range eggs, which is what I said. Dairy however is just fucking WRONG and health benifits?, well I do know that swiming around in the TOXIC soup that is milk there are some vitamins etc, but soy milk wins there to, in lots of cases. There is less calcium in milk then in potato chips! Oh and I said eating meat is OK, so stop messing with my words its bad enough you said "See, that's your problem. Everything you post is always so one-sided. " I eat (some)meat! (and meat raised well wether I eat it or not has my..um...stamp of approval. DAIRY , however is ..............satan Please if everything I post is so one sided , please go bnack through my posts and educate me, better yet get an opinion and actually belivve in something, cause your wishy washy , here and there approch to this makes you seem like you cant have one of your own, you just want to make friends and pick sides. Well I have an opinion sorry
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silversoul7
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Not true, like I said I dont think eating meat is SO BAD, when the meat is raised well, your just whining about what I said in OTD......
That's another problem I have with you--you assume too much. I'm referring mostly to your posts in PA&L where you rely so heavily on the most biased sources possible. BTW, how can you sit there and tell me that you eat meat but that dairy is not only unhealthy but evil? Grow up, please.
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Psilocybeingzz


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That's another problem I have with you--you assume too much. I'm referring mostly to your posts in PA&L where you rely so heavily on the most biased sources possible. BTW, how can you sit there and tell me that you eat meat but that dairy is not only unhealthy but evil? Grow up, please.
When I called Dairy satan it was a joke,and I am older then you buddy If you read my posts, I USED to eat chicken and turkey, but these days I only eat eggs. The Pal forum???, oh you mean the conservative party, well I dont post there anymore, .........much. And why is everything I say bias? When I link........ www.corpwatch.org you have a problem with that? or www.fair.org Like I said you just want to BELONG and would rather AGREE then think it seems, and I am not saying you have to agree with me, cause you clearly dont , but it seems you let other do the thinking for you. Please I want you to go back through my posts and show me the error of my ways, if I am SOOOO BIAS point it out , show me, cause you are grapsing at straws. I am not BIAS I have an opinion and I use facts to support that opinion, try it, you might like it better then just nodding
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Psilocybeingzz


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Oh an d congradulations!!!! I think we killed what was an interesting thread
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silversoul7
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It's not so much that you use those links, but that you act like they're the gospel truth and that anyone who disagrees is brainwashed. And this has nothing to do with belonging. You're posts in there made the left look bad, and so in order to not make my side look like a bunch of idiots, I had to distance myself from your posts. Anyway, I have no desire to argue with you any further.
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i was just rambling, talking, whatever dont take me to serious! but to do the at me for opinions is alot like me at a person that thinks there view point is any more valid than my own or like led zep told me "ramble on...." in my years of not eating animals its so simple to see that people that like to eat meat will, and those that dont like to will not. to try to change a persons ideas about eating animals is like trying to drag 30 horses to a lake and getting them to take a drink of water they just shit in! try to talk to someone about evolution thats a bible nut,its the same deal. i would not eat a human its a creature on earth with a nervious system,nor would i eat a cat,dog,cow,or pig. they are all much more evloved beings on this plant than a potato or an apple, or a soy bean. plants, friuts,beans,nuts, contain many more of the things my body requires to exist on this planet. i was not getting technical, beacuse that would be volumes and volumes of writting. people eat animals to live, or they would die, and poor people suffer first. yes i know,either way poor or not,eating animals is weeding out the population on this planet... live long and prosper
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tripndicular
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You are the one not listening to your own words . One minute you agree the next you try to convert . With out distruction there is no creation , and vise versa for you half full of water types . One is no better than the other they are equally CO DEPENDENT , cows eat grain that is not good for human consumption , grain takes time , space , money , and resources to produce . Cow shit is used to make fertilizers , to aid in the growing of grains we eat . And what do we as a species return to them ? Either way they get eaten !!!!!!!!!!!! It sucks being at the top of the food chain ..... huh ???????? What shall I eat tonight ???????? BEER STEAK AND BOOBS!!!!!!!! (I do agree with the milk hater ..... how vile , mamma cuts us off the teat by age 2 , and what do we do ? We drink the mammory juice of other animals , what a vile habit , but that makes us human I suppose .) PS Thermodynamics ......... ? I am in HVAC industry and what I learned does not apply to the choice of eating or not eating meat cause it takes more resources to produce . Maybe I am ignorant to your concept of knowledge , but thermodynamics ...... Heat can neither be created or destroyed Heat seeks cold The energy of heat can be transferred by conduction , convection , and radiation . How about Daltons Law , or Charles Law, or Boyels Law do they also apply to this concept .
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silversoul7
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I am not trying to convert anyone here. I'm just explaining why I'm making my decisions. If you plan on eating steak tonight more power to you. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with eating meat. It's just our heavy reliance on it that is causing us to use way too many resources in consuming it.
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