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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Delyrium]
    #4194741 - 05/19/05 09:44 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

mmm fish

did you know that 99% of americans don't get enough omega 3 fatty acids in their diet? one of the essential amino acids the body does not produce.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Shroomism]
    #4194816 - 05/19/05 10:05 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

sure - so why do people claim they get enough when they eat fish?

omega 3 is in flax seed, walnuts, tofu and i believe some dark leafy greens. i usually just grind flax seed and put it over cereal or oatmeal... it's delicious - tastes nutty. here read this:
http://www.vegsoc.org/info/omega3.html


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Delyrium]
    #4194836 - 05/19/05 10:11 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

ya.. but most people hardly ever eat fish. let alone flax seeds, walnuts and soy products. mmmmmmm soy products... :drooling:


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Shroomism]
    #4194840 - 05/19/05 10:13 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i never understood that. Fish are very VERY VERY tasty I'll admit. I was amazed at some middle-class retard who didn't know fish filets were made of fish. "OMG! THEY HAVE BONES?!"

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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: vampirism]
    #4194921 - 05/19/05 10:35 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

fish is damn tasty.. especially when done right. plus it is high in nutrients and essential acids.. which is why if I went veggie I would still eat fish.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Shroomism]
    #4194925 - 05/19/05 10:37 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Hm. why would you be going veggie then? For health concerns?

But in that case, why not just eat really healthy meat or hunt?


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: vampirism]
    #4194953 - 05/19/05 10:45 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

All meat contains uric acid. especially red meat. High concentrations of uric acid builds up in the body tissue and can lead to gall stones, heart disease, obesity, gout, rheumatism, kidney disease, and a thousand other bad things.
Not to mention the growth hormones and whatnot in most meat. And allah only knows what else. Besides that, meat is an inefficient food source. You get something like 10% of the food energy that the animal ate. You can get more protein and zero uric acid by eating less nuts than you would meat. And the body cannot properly digest meat completely.. so it blocks your intestines. And that's just what I know off the top of my head.

"healthy" meat.. I assume you mean free-range, organically fed meat.. is better than the shit pumped with growth hormones and such.. yes.. but still has the uric acid.. still is meat. Fish is healthy. I'm not sure if it contains any uric acid or not (I don't think so).. but it has omega 3 fatty acids, an essential acid the body needs to survive.. where cow, chicken, turkey, pig, etc.. does not. If I would hunt my own food it would be fishing.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Shroomism]
    #4194970 - 05/19/05 10:53 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Vegetarians develop choline related disorders. (Unless they know what they are doing)


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #4194998 - 05/19/05 11:03 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

and meat eaters have heart attacks unless they know what they are doing

but that's why I said I would still eat fish, and eggs. eggs have high amounts of lecithin/choline. But unless I am mistaken soybeans also have high amounts of choline, and what vegetarian in their right mind doesn't eat soybeans.. or some soy product.

People always talk about vegetarians not getting enough nutrients, but the simple fact is most people, meat eaters included, don't get the proper nutrients. It's just the way our culture's diet is set up. You look at other cultures.. take mediterranean and asain cuisine for example.. and they don't have half the problems we do. That's cause their meals revolve around a diverse set of fruits and vegetables and nuts and legumes, and not hamburgers and potato chips and soda and deep-fried pig balls, and what have you. How many obscenely fat americans are there? It's disgusting. How many fat japanese people have you seen?

Not that I don't love deep fried pig balls.. and not that I don't eat meat pretty much on a regular basis. But I'm trying ringo.. I'm trying reeeeaaaaal hard.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: shanti]
    #4195016 - 05/19/05 11:08 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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advice: don't forget your Omega 3 fatty acids found in walnuts and flax oil or power. You'll need a serving a day. Also, you need to make sure you get your B12. You can get some in soymilk and other products that have been supplimented. Otherwise, take it in pill form.




I've been vedge for 1 year now. Ever since my first trip on 2CI (65mg)
Here's an easy recipe for Nepali Tarkari: put about 3 Tbsp oil in a large pan. throw a cpl pinches of whole cumin seed in there, and a whole medium to large sized onion. Saute until onion starts to brown.
Throw in 4-5 cups of choped veggies of your choice. (If I use broccoli I throw it in there when I throw the onion in, cuz it takes a long time to cook). When you throw the veggies in also throw in 1 tsp cumin 1 tsp cinnamon 1 tsp powdered turmeric, and as much hot pepper as you want. (powdered turmeric can be substituted w/curry powder or garam masala powder). cook on a low heat until veggies are soft. Add water if needed (not much)
Toss on some rice and enjoy!


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Shroomism]
    #4195154 - 05/19/05 11:44 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

ya know shroomism - i REALLY like ur replies. u show both sides of the spectrum and i REALLY respect that :smile: shine on


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Delyrium]
    #4195184 - 05/19/05 11:51 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

:smile:

I try to embrace the duality
and even though I eat meat.. I yearn to be a veg and have mad respect for those who can pull it off


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Shroomism]
    #4195422 - 05/19/05 12:33 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Stop trying to be a vegetarian and just do it man. Sounds like you really know your stuff.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4195438 - 05/19/05 12:35 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

If all your ancestors had been vegetarian, you'd still be a monkey somewhere in africa. Vegetarianism makes no sense and denies your heritage.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4195465 - 05/19/05 12:40 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Well I've been studying diet/nutrition and herbs and stuff for a while now. I just can't seem to be able to go full veggie. I'm hungry a lot, but often too poor to be able to eat what I really want. It sucks that organic food is the most expensive, and meat so cheap...and available everywhere. And when I get invited to dinners and stuff.. almost everyone serves meat dishes. And I'm not one to pass up food. But those are all just lame excuses aren't they. You're right I should just do it.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Madweed420shroom]
    #4195482 - 05/19/05 12:43 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Actually, in the hunter/gatherer society.. meat comprised about 5-10% of the food. The gatherers collecting the nuts and berries and plants and shit.. that was 90% of what those societies ate.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Madweed420shroom]
    #4195488 - 05/19/05 12:44 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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If all your ancestors had been non-territorial, you'd still be a monkey somewhere in africa. Not being terratorial makes no sense and denies your heritage.




Sometimes things change from 10,000 years ago. Sometimes for the better. The necessity of eating meat has changed. 10,000 years ago, it didn't make sense to be a vegetarian, now it does.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Shroomism]
    #4195526 - 05/19/05 12:49 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Man think how free you will be when you just do it and no longer have to struggle with it.  :sun:  It will free up all the energy you spend thinking about it, and all the energy your body spends fighting meat toxins.

You know those are just lame excuses.

If you can't afford organic food, eat non-organic vegetarian food, you are still better off then eating meat.

Personally, I don't always prefer the organic stuff.  For example, organic strawberries are nasty little moldy pieces of shit, but non-organic strawberries are big and tasty.  Yum.  Sometimes, technology helps them make better food.  You'd be better off eating non-organic vegetarian, then eating meat.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: tomk]
    #4195555 - 05/19/05 12:55 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

True that.. and man.. just thinking about how good fruit is makes me almost cream my pants. Biting into a sweet, ripe strawberry.. oh man. Or how about a nice juicy orange.. mango.. grapes.. oh so good. Peaches.. apples.. cherries.. dont get me started.

Ok that settles it.. other than fish and eggs.. I'm not eating meat anymore. Let's see how this works out.


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Re: Decided to go vegetarian [Re: Shroomism]
    #4195652 - 05/19/05 01:12 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

props.


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