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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Shroomism]
    #4273145 - 06/08/05 07:11 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I don't kill buffalos, waste resources more than the common man, or pollute to excess. What I'm sick of is people telling me that I am a murderer b/c their views differ from mine. I can't even eat vegetable b/c of my irritable bowel syndrome, but that doesn't stop people who know absolutely nothing about me make judgements about my character.

Vegetarians: If you don't eat meat, I don't give a fuck. Just leave me the hell alone and stop pushing your lifestyle on others. Some of you are no better than Christians pushing heterosexuality or their other morals.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Shroomism]
    #4273158 - 06/08/05 07:13 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

"I love red meats, more than general, and, especially special relativity"

- Albert Einstein


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4273161 - 06/08/05 07:13 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Shroomism]
    #4273163 - 06/08/05 07:14 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)





"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. "

"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from that of their social environment. "

- Albert Einstein


Oh how we love the "einstein knows everything" fellas. Quality shroomism, didn't expect anything less.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Redstorm]
    #4273187 - 06/08/05 07:21 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Ahh.. I loves me a good debate :grin:
That's cool man I see where you are coming from. I'm actually playing devil's advocate here a little bit.. because its fun. :tongue:
I'm not even completely a vegetarian, but I am aware of the environmental impact the agriculture industry has on the Earth. There's not any one person to blame, it's all our damn faults. I certainly wouldn't call someone a murderer just because they eat meat. That would make me one too.. if you stab someone in the face and they die, you are a murderer. If you eat hamburgers, you eat meat.

I think in general, vegetarians will leave meat eaters alone when meat-eaters leave vegetarians alone. I think for the most part, it is meat-eaters that are doing the aggresive agenda-pushing (i.e - for every animal you don't eat I will eat three.. what kind of shit is that>?).. I get meat pushed on me more than anything. Shit find me someone who will try and peer-pressure me into eating fruit all the time, I'll be their friend. You guys can be real assholes to vegetarians some of the time. I'm not talkin about you, just meat-eaters in general. Me, I'm kind of the middle man. I wont tell you not to eat meat, but I will tell you what's healthy about fruits and veggies.

How did you get IBS if you don't mind me asking? Born with it?


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: looner2]
    #4273193 - 06/08/05 07:23 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think he knew everything. I just think the man was smart.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Shroomism]
    #4273225 - 06/08/05 07:29 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I've said it before but I'll say it again. I have no problem with vegetarians that choose such a diet because it appeals to them. But as soon as they (and many I know do) get an attitude in which they feel they are choosing the "higher road" or being more moral (whatever that means) they can fuck the right off. I eat meat and I love it. If someone looks down on my meat eating I'll make it a point to fuck with them just to piss them off since their idiotic notion of superiority is based on their own foolish notion of what is supposedly right. I don't feel superior for eating meat nor do I feel inferior since it's only a personal preference and that's it.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Shroomism]
    #4273251 - 06/08/05 07:36 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I think IBS is something like cancer by that you are born with the capacity for if to show itself, but the right factors need to be there to make it come out.

My factor was extreme stress over my parent's terribly messy divorce.

Thank god you don't have IBS. It has turned my social life upside down and has effectively made my life hell.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Redstorm]
    #4273259 - 06/08/05 07:37 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

That sucks


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Redstorm]
    #4273271 - 06/08/05 07:38 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

:frown: sorry about that man
Have you looked into treatments for it.. perhaps herbs and diet that would help?


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Shroomism]
    #4273281 - 06/08/05 07:40 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I've tried rx drugs which somwhat helps. It's hard with the diet, though, since I have little money or time b/c of my erratic schedule, plus the fact that the most random things (anxiety or food) will set it off.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Redstorm]
    #4273287 - 06/08/05 07:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

You should eat lots of jalapenos.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #4273290 - 06/08/05 07:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

DO NOT TAKE THAT ADVICE.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Redstorm]
    #4273294 - 06/08/05 07:43 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I haven't researched IBS but you should look into maybe trying Slippery Elm as an herbal supplement.. it has wonderful healing and nourishing properties for the intestinal tract.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Shroomism]
    #4273313 - 06/08/05 07:47 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

The problem with irritable bowel is that there is actually nothing wrong with the intestines. The problem is the nerves somewhere between the brain and the intestines. Somwhere between there, my nerves are mixed up.

Also, you can not cure IBS, you can only treat the symptoms.

That's how my gastroenterologist explained it to me.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Redstorm]
    #4273341 - 06/08/05 07:52 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Well damnit there's got to be something.. they just haven't found a cure for it yet.

Umm.. check this out - http://www.herbs.org/current/chinibs.html
http://ibscrohns.about.com/cs/altmedibs/a/herbsibs.htm

Just trying to help..there's things can make it more bearable. I have been helped greatly by herbs so I am a large proponent of them.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Shroomism]
    #4273356 - 06/08/05 07:55 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:

Thanks. I'll read everything and anything people give me about IBS.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Infrared]
    #4274341 - 06/09/05 12:01 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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DeepBlue42 said:
the only meat i eat is from free range animals, bought from organic markets.




You do realize that free range only means there has to be an opening somewhere on the building, right? Do some research, "free range" is just a term used to let people eat meat and not feel so bad about it.


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: looner2]
    #4274347 - 06/09/05 12:06 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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that is totally absurd...what an idiot.

sure, animals are killed while harvesting wheat and vegatables.

but if you consider killing animals a bad thing, then what is worse? eating wheat and killing animals...

or eating meat and killing and animals AND eating wheat and killing animals.

vegetarians don't eat meat, meat eaters eat meat AND wheat

simple logic


Your logic isn't registering, partly because you didn't make a point. If killing animals is viewed as wrong, what matters the mechanism in which they are killed?

vegetarians = animals killed
meat eaters= animals killed

"simple logic" tells me they both kill animals, the very reason that vegetarianism is built on to be against.




re-read my post...

here it is again

that is totally absurd...what an idiot.

sure, animals are killed while harvesting wheat and vegatables.

but if you consider killing animals a bad thing, then what is worse? eating wheat and killing animals...

or eating meat and killing and animals AND eating wheat and killing animals.

vegetarians don't eat meat, meat eaters eat meat AND wheat

simple logic


there you go...i'll even just put the point here

but if you consider killing animals a bad thing, then what is worse? eating wheat and killing animals...

or eating meat and killing and animals AND eating wheat and killing animals.


Get it? I'll even reword it...

Support one method of killing animals, or two?


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Re: vegetarians are killing animals [Re: Redstorm]
    #4274361 - 06/09/05 12:14 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Wouldn't harvesting plants be murder as well?






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