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Alien Abduction
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1. Note that most "abductees" are not even abducted. Family and friends do not go looking for a missing body. Not one person has been mysteriously abducted from work, church or other highly public setting.

2. Most abductions happen only at night highly coincident with sleep paralysis, night terrors and dreams.

3. Most abductees are Americans, which has the highest blast of sci-fi media imagery.

4. Not one person has brought back any "new" technological, scientific or astronomic information.

You do the math...


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Swami]
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Why would so many people fabricate these terrifying experiences? Most of the abductees that are interviewed seem to be very well adjusted and intelligent. All of their experiences have striking similarities and have been happening to them since a very young age, before being exposed to any media. I would guess that most abductees remain incognito for fear of rejection and humiliation. The actuall number of abdutees is totally unknomn so to say that they are mostly Americans is way off. These people are not doing this for attention in my opinion, they are sharing their experiences to open the eyes of humanity.


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Swami]
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Just because there's alot of bullshitters out there isn't proof that it couldn't happen. The idea came from somewhere... who knows if it was based on a shred of truth or complete fiction.

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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: postanaldrip]
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Why would so many people fabricate these terrifying experiences?
How do I know what motivates people? OK I will make an attempt.

"Communion" = $$$
"Alien Autopsy" = $$$
"Crash at Corona" = $$$
"Signs" = $$$
"Close Encounters" & Taken" = $$$
"E.T" = $$$
"Outer Limits" & "X-Files" = $$$
"Fire in the Sky" = $$$

How about attention or wanting to feel special or chosen?

Most of the abductees that are interviewed seem to be very well adjusted and intelligent.
That is called filtering by the TV producers. To profile attractive, well-spoken and intelligent people gives the subject more of an air of authenticity. Ugly retards are nearly as convincing.

All of their experiences have striking similarities and have been happening to them since a very young age, before being exposed to any media.
1. Children aren't exposed to media? Where do you live? The large-headed alien has been protrayed since the late '50s.

2. It is NOT children reporting these experiences, but adults with "repressed" or "screen" memories.

The actuall number of abdutees is totally unknomn so to say that they are mostly Americans is way off.
I am talking about reports, not the toal number. Bushmen and Eskimos are not making these reports, mostly bored middle-class westerners.

they are sharing their experiences to open the eyes of humanity.
And what EXACTLY are we supposed to do with these stories about invincible, invisible creatures who are cloning us against our will?




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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Swami]
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It is NOT children reporting these experiences, but adults with "repressed" or "screen" memories.

This is a theory with as little "proof" as the alien abductions themselves.

Bushmen and Eskimos are not making these reports, mostly bored middle-class westerners.

Oh come on, read a few accounts of ayahuasqueros or mazatec shamen and you'll find reports of meeting "the principal ones", "reptiles the like of which I have never seen on earth", "Fantastic cities and flying objects". None of these people have ever seen communion.



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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Xlea321]
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So you are relating the experience of a South American shaman on a powerful mind-bending drug with a sober Norte Americano with a sleep disorder? I don't see the connection.


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Swami]
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Remember that every human brain has a "powerful mind-bending drug" naturally in it - DMT. A drug that reliably produces alien contact experiences.

Jesus - "mind-bending"? You sound like Dick Nixon when you talk about psychedelics.


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Xlea321]
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you're all wrong

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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Xlea321]
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I think the point here is that a vast majority of the whole Alien Conspiracy thing is bullshit. People preying on others' curiousity to make $$$ as Swami says.

But again, that doesnt mean it isnt possible.

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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Swami]
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"How do I know what motivates people? OK I will make an attempt.

"Communion" = $$$
"Alien Autopsy" = $$$
"Crash at Corona" = $$$
"Signs" = $$$
"Close Encounters" & Taken" = $$$
"E.T" = $$$
"Outer Limits" & "X-Files" = $$$
"Fire in the Sky" = $$$

How about attention or wanting to feel special or chosen?"

How do these movies = money for the poor guy who went through the abduction? The producers and actors are the ones making the money.
I dont doubt that some people are motivated by money or whatever. But there are some out there that are motivated to let the truth be known.

"Ugly retards are nearly as convincing."

I totally disagree with you. Its easy to tell a fraud from a genuine abductee reguardless of there outside appearance. I dont think its very nice to label anybody as an "ugly retard" either.

"1. Children aren't exposed to media? Where do you live? The large-headed alien has been protrayed since the late '50s."

What media is a 5 year old kid exposed to that would motivate them to fabricate an intricate abduction sequence? Children dont process media the same way that adults do.


"2. It is NOT children reporting these experiences, but adults with "repressed" or "screen" memories"

The only reports you know about are the ones that are publicized. You and me probably know about less than 2% of total abduction stories. Whos to say that there arent thousands of children out there that have told stories to parents or are keeping them to themselves?

"Bushmen and Eskimos are not making these reports, mostly bored middle-class westerners."

I saw a news story a couple of months ago about a tribe of "bushmen" that reported mass abductions, mutilation of its people and stange glowing crafts flying around. These people had physical evidence of the mutilations and were extremely convincing. They couldnt even speak english so to say that they have been corrupted by American media is out of the question. They were terrified of the flying globes. Whats there motive? To try and get somebody to believe them and help them. Just like every other abductee.

"And what EXACTLY are we supposed to do with these stories about invincible, invisible creatures who are cloning us against our will?"

Open you mind to the likely possibility that we are not alone in the universe.


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Swami]
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This is another subject where the only evidence is personal experience.

Swami new topic.  :grin:


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: postanaldrip]
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Open you mind to the likely possibility that we are not alone in the universe.

This is hardly "taking action".


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Swami]
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I think swami is a fucking drama queen. Why else would he always bring up aliens and shit, he just likes to argue with people. I've coming to these boards for along time and whenever the subject pops up swami and some other shroomerite go round and round and never get anywhere. When I see a post where there is no room for debate I just don't post because people are gonna believe what they are gonna believe no matter what you say. And for the subject of aliens, who really gives fuck anyways, if there are other intelligence out there then there is other intelligence out there and if there isn't there isn't but there is no use in arguing about it.

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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: psilocybinist]
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Such anger over nothing!

So you complain about no content posts by posting a no content post. Makes sense.


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Swami]
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See there you go again lookin for drama :smirk: 

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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: psilocybinist]
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Does the shroomery give annual Drama Awards like the Oscars?


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Swami]
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Does the shroomery give annual Drama Awards like the Oscars?

I wish i were an Oscar(Golden)-Meyer whinner....... :grin: 


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: FreakQlibrium]
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Maybe instead of shrooms we should give people little OScar drama awards. I rate swami with three oscar drama awards.

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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: postanaldrip]
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The only reports you know about are the ones that are publicized. You and me probably know about less than 2% of total abduction stories. Whos to say that there arent thousands of children out there that have told stories to parents or are keeping them to themselves?

Yep.


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Re: Alien Abduction [Re: Swami]
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I experienced sleep paralysis once. I woke up and couldn't move. I heard something screaming in my hall way. Then I heard it walk up to the side of my bed. It made all kinds of gibbering noises. Needless to say when i regained motor control i was totally freaked out. I chain smoked like 6 cigs. Then I did some research on the net and wrote it off for the hallucinatory sleep disorder that it was.

As for the children not reporting "alien abduction", I think that most children classify "aliens" as monsters. ie: there's monsters under my bed/ in my closet/ trying to get me.


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