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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Consciousness and parallel processing.
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I doubt that computers ever will attain consciousness by serial processing, as my own consciousness comprises simultaneous awareness of several parallel processes in my brain.

Perhaps a computer will attain consciousness by parallel processing, but how can the computer become aware of parallel processes simultaneously?

The only known phenomena that would allow for simultaneous awareness, seems to be quantum entanglement.

Edited by Zanthius (05/01/09 07:28 AM)

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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: Zanthius]
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imagine this: each neuron is a processor... there are over 100,000,000,000 neurons in the brain.

At the moment our home computers have, for example, 4 processors (quad core). It will take a little while until there are enough cores to support the amount of simultaneous calculation required to manifest consciousness.


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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: Noteworthy]
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Noteworthy said:
imagine this: each neuron is a processor... there are over 100,000,000,000 neurons in the brain.

At the moment our home computers have, for example, 4 processors (quad core). It will take a little while until there are enough cores to support the amount of simultaneous calculation required to manifest consciousness.


Supercomputers have much more than 4 processors, and it is possible to design a software that processes on multiple computers on the internet.

The entire internet might gain consciousness, if it becomes aware of all the parallel processes simultaneously.

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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: Zanthius]
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yeah.. if all the computers were synchronised. But it would be cheaper to just make it one computer.

Anyway, supercomputers do have more than 4 processors. 100,000,000,000? not so sure


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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: Noteworthy]
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Noteworthy said:
yeah.. if all the computers were synchronised. But it would be cheaper to just make it one computer.

Anyway, supercomputers do have more than 4 processors. 100,000,000,000? not so sure


Perhaps, but according to Ray Kurzweil they might attain that not so long into the future.


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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: Zanthius]
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I think the idea that a computer can "equal" human consciousness is fundamentally absurd, at least with present definitions of "computer." They're so structurally different from our brains that there's just no way they'll end up having the same behavior.

BTW in addition to being massively parallel, our brains are also heavily recursive in terms of pathway structure. Personally I'm convinced that recursivity is crucial to real intelligence, and that's why no matter what their clock speed is, computers just can't begin to emulate real intelligence  yet. We need to rethink the structure of computers if we want intelligent behavior out of them.


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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: Zanthius]
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Zanthius said:
Noteworthy said:
yeah.. if all the computers were synchronised. But it would be cheaper to just make it one computer.

Anyway, supercomputers do have more than 4 processors. 100,000,000,000? not so sure


Perhaps, but according to Ray Kurzweil they might attain that not so long into the future.


Excellent, someone else on here has heard of Kurzweil.  Good stuff.  :thumbup:


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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: deCypher]
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I've bought a couple of his books, haven't gotten around to reading them. Got into him through a band, actually. His theories are certainly interesting, and he seems to have a nack for predicting things accurately, so we'll see if he continues to be right.

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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: Noteworthy]
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Noteworthy said:
imagine this: each neuron is a processor... there are over 100,000,000,000 neurons in the brain.

At the moment our home computers have, for example, 4 processors (quad core). It will take a little while until there are enough cores to support the amount of simultaneous calculation required to manifest consciousness.


All this is fine and dandy if you assume that the physical brain is the main factor behind consciousness.

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I think the idea that a computer can "equal" human consciousness is fundamentally absurd


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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: jivJaN]
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Do you feel that there are forces which create consciousness which aren't physical/biological? If so, then what?


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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
Do you feel that there are forces which create consciousness which aren't physical/biological? If so, then what?


Not only do i "feel" .. i can rationalize it as well.


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: jivJaN]
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Please do.


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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: laserpig]
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Mind is made out of matter, matter is made out of mind. Two words for the same thing imo. e=mc². Mind/matter is probably electricity, or some finer form.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_theories_of_consciousness

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Re: Consciousness and parallel processing. [Re: Diaboleros]
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Diaboleros said:
Mind is made out of matter, matter is made out of mind.


QFT


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