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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Alien contact [Re: Xlea321]
    #845660 - 08/27/02 03:59 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I thought you were talking about seriously examining the brain to see what happens during entheogenic experiences.
That would be interesting, but one must first get the scienctific community's attention before time and money is put into such examinations.

Bill Hicks said he'd met insectoids who said they were his older brothers here to help his evolution, I experienced the same thing several years before I heard Bill say it.
Anecdotes are intriguiging, but are never accepted in the scientific realm except as a starting point for research. This has nothing to do with mistrust or close-mindedness. In any experiment, a researcher needs to control the number of variables to get a clear picture of what is happening to prevent coming to false conclusions.

Whether or not this proves aliens exist I don't know. It could just imply the existence of a collective unconscious. However, the question then is why does the collective unconscious has these things stored in it. Science is unlikely to ever be able to prove anything on this level.
Before science comes to any conclusion about the nature or meaning of these visions, it would first and foremost like to confirm that something extraordinary is going on. One step at a time...






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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Alien contact [Re: Shroomism]
    #845696 - 08/27/02 04:24 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Introductory note: Here we have this amazing collective of minds and experiences, and what do we do with it? Amuse, tease, share, etc., but we have nothing to show for all our discussions (am talking about the S&P, not the shroomery-at-large which has done a fantastic service). The prevailing attitudes seems to be on one side: "You are delusional." and on the other: "I experienced something amazing and that is good enough for me."

Isn't it about time that we actually UTILIZE this collective? *steps down from soapbox*


So, you want me to post the five hundred PMs I've gotten in the past couple
years from people on this board describing their contact experiences or what?


500 PMs is a great starting point. Perhaps you and some others could collate or summarize these experiences.

For example:

12% have to be taken aboard a ship (compare ship descriptions)
23% meet the Mantids
8% meet Octopi-like aliens
71% found the experience to be frightening
32% found it to be a life-changing experience

...and so on.

What was the average dosage?
How experienced was the tripper?
How was their life changed?

A questionaire could be developed.

Shroomism, you could hand-pick subjects (of those interested in participating) for a series of experiments by choosing those able to bring back the clearest data.

Maybe those of us that participate here on the S&P have been "selected" to crack open the 4th dimension. It's time to stop talking and start doing.


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InvisibleShroomismM
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Re: Alien contact [Re: Swami]
    #845701 - 08/27/02 04:27 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I like your attitude... I've got some ideas brewing..



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Re: Alien contact [Re: Shroomism]
    #845972 - 08/27/02 06:28 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Why not arrange a few gatherings for the purpose of exploration and validation? Set up protocols and get volunteers for moderators and subjects.


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Re: Alien contact [Re: Swami]
    #846010 - 08/27/02 06:48 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Respect to the swami!

Sounds like a good idea shroomism.


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Re: Alien contact [Re: Xlea321]
    #846039 - 08/27/02 07:01 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

You know an interdimensional shift is near when Alex and the Swam walk together into the sunset - LOL!


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Re: Alien contact [Re: ]
    #846043 - 08/27/02 07:03 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Why not arrange a few gatherings for the purpose of exploration and validation? Set up protocols and get volunteers for moderators and subjects.

Nudity! Will it involve nudity?


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InvisibleMystical_Craven
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Re: Alien contact [Re: Swami]
    #846678 - 08/27/02 12:22 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Swami - I like this idea a lot, and I think it's an excellent place to start
Shroomism - if you need any help with this I'll be more then willing to assist in any way I can

Wouldn't it be ironic if the proverbial 'truth' was actually uncovered in some internet message board? Personally, I think this isn't alll that far fetched...places like this don't have to put up with all the politics of the scientific community, participants would all be people who were truely dedicated, and the net could definately provide a neverending supply of like-minded people. I don't see why an online conglomeration couldn't be possible. It's like they say - there's powers in numbers...and with enough people giving it their all, nothing is impossible.


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Re: Alien contact [Re: Mystical_Craven]
    #846780 - 08/27/02 01:05 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Very interesting. I've done my own research and such and composed a theroy like what Adamist said above. I think alien contact has been with people on mushrooms or something similar. I've also heard a lot of alien shit with people who take DMT. Maybe aliens aren't in physical form and just evolved enough to travel the galaxy by projecting themselves. Maybe that's our next step in evolution.






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What if everything around you
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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
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