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Contact Experiment
    #845759 - 08/27/02 02:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Over the past couple years I've received many PMs from people describing their contact experiences with higher dimensional beings or otherworldly presences. Beings that reside in a vibrational level that is faster than our own... they live more in the spiritual world than in the physical, yet they are still physical. Being in a lower density, or dimension, as these beings.. we are often unable to perceive their presence.

The human mind is capable of many different states and has many 'hidden compartments' where memories can be tucked away. There are different states of concentration... or conscious focus. Many times we are in trance like states of consciousness, or in the dream state... more 'fluid' states where we are able to perceive more subtle energies and whatnot. Oftentimes these extra-dimensional beings are with us, but unperceived.

Most of us have had contact. Few of us remember.

What I'd like to get out of this is for anyone that has a contact experience or what you think might be... during a trip or a dream or whatever... send it to me in a PM. I want to collect as many as possible for a study.


I'm going to write a guide for initiating and/or remembering contact.
But I'm going to start with the first step, the mind and our perceptions.

The most common states of mind I am aware of for contact to be processed and remembered are..
Dreams
A trancelike state such as in deep meditations or while drumming
During a mushroom trip or even acid trip where awareness is increased
Any state of mind with an increased awareness of surroundings and subtle, more 'spiritual' energies

Human consciousness has three compartments. Conscious, subconscious, and unconscious. Unconscious is the soul level, our eternal awakened consciousness... subconscious is where most memories are stored and all of the effects of those memories... conscious is the thing you use whenever you are focusing on something...
Conscious constantly gives and receives information from the subconscious, it compares what it is currently experiencing with any previous memories it may have had that are similar, and returns to the conscious with any attached emotions or repressed feelings it has towards that situation or experience.

Often an experience is almost beyond our level of perception, or so subliminal we don't even notice. Conscious isn't aware of what is going on in subconscious all the time. Conscious is focused on the outside world. Subconscious can still pick up information from the outside world, thereby completely bypassing consciousness. Something can effect you without you being consciously aware of it, but deep down you know.

When you go to sleep at night, conscious stops focusing on the physical world, it just sort of shuts down. Subconscious rules. Without the constant barrage of information from the conscious, subconscious is free to cogitate and process information.

The point of all this is that spiritual beings, or higher vibrational physical beings, are not within the perceivable range of the conscious mind. Subconscious may be aware of the presence and/or communication with the beings, but conscious may just go along blissfully unaware...

I'm going to talk about how to become aware how to prepare for contact. Later.
For now anyone that remembers anything please send me your experience via PM.




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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #846633 - 08/27/02 12:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I'm interrested in hearing about some of your findings...if you're sent anything that that particular individual wouldn't mind sharing with others, I'd appreciate it if you were to post it here (or at least, give a general synopsis of things that you've been sent) I think this sort of stuff is fascinating, and I would love to learn from other's experiences as well.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #846891 - 08/27/02 02:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You've got my PM





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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Mystical_Craven]
    #846938 - 08/27/02 02:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I think as little as possible should be publicly shared at this time as it may further "color" other's experiences. Raw data should continue to be collected by shroomism through reports and questionaires. Group voyages / experiments should be then be done.

The public report should come after that.

Also a committee, of let's say 5 contactees and 5 skeptics should volunteer and be voted in by poll. Only they should be privy to the initial data and would be involved in designing the questionaire and any experiments.

I will offer to be on the skeptic side. Shroomism should automatically be part of the contactee board as keeper of the reports.

All other nominee's names should be submitted within a week and a vote taken if more than 5 volunteers per side.

One neutral party should be named as the final arbiter in the event of any unforeseeable voting deadlock. I would nominate Mr. Mushrooms or MarkosTheGnostic for that position.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Swami]
    #847005 - 08/27/02 03:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

good point swam...I didn't even think about that. In that case - I'd like to volunteer for one of the contactee positions (assuming of course that such a position is open) and I agree with having Mr Mushrooms as a neutral - I think he'd be perfect for that position


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #847251 - 08/27/02 05:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Shroomism I've shared my experiences with you before...
let me know if you need me to re-send some of the things I've written about them.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Swami]
    #847275 - 08/27/02 05:27 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If one's available... I'll take one of them thar chairs marked with a big, red "S".


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Swami]
    #847312 - 08/27/02 05:42 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

good point swami. If such a committee will indeed be put together, I'd like to be either a neutral or skeptic (since I have never encountered any "other" beings on or off drugs)


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: chodamunky]
    #847331 - 08/27/02 05:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

That's an idea, too. Perhaps a committee of 9 with 3 neutrals, 3 skeptics and 3 contactees.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Swami]
    #847435 - 08/27/02 06:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Can one be a skeptic and contactee at the same time?


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Adamist]
    #847443 - 08/27/02 06:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If anyone has sent me their contact experiences before, it would be nice if you could send them to me again as most of my PMs were lost last I got deleted.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Swami]
    #847458 - 08/27/02 06:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Off the top of my head I'd like to nominate these people work on this..

3 contactees..
Adamist, Myself and Craven

3 skeptics
Sclorch, Swami and Evolving?

3 neutrals
Mr Mushrooms, Markos and ____?

So I'm going to go about collecting as much raw data as possible. This requires input.. so send me your experiences and maybe I will create some sort of survey?


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #847518 - 08/27/02 07:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

3 skeptics
Sclorch, Swami and Evolving?


I'm game.

This could be quite educational...


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #847538 - 08/27/02 07:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i consider myself quite neutral on the subject of alien encounters. **shrugs**


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: thePatient]
    #847561 - 08/27/02 07:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

So you can be the third neutral


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #847572 - 08/27/02 07:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I would love to help with this in anyway that I can.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #847574 - 08/27/02 07:29 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You can be a test subject


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #847584 - 08/27/02 07:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

sounds good, I've always wanted to see me a grey.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #848079 - 08/27/02 10:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quick question - when you say "send me your experiences" is there anything in particular that you're looking for, or just anything in general? Cause I could probably send ya a quick overview of some of mine, and then just expand on the things that you think might be important...or I could just go straight to the drawn out version and let you sift through it. Either one is cool with me, so just tell me what you're looking for and I'll send it your way.

example: I've had quite a few dreams in the past about three dementional / holographic writtings...I'm not sure if these would even fit with the whole alien 'thing' cause I've never been too sure if that's where they come from or not...so would a description of something like that be important? (note: this is just one example, there are other 'things' that fall somewhere in the grey area too...so I guess what I'm trying to say is - do you want all the 'grey' stuff too, or just the info on things I personally feel are from/about aliens)


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Mystical_Craven]
    #848199 - 08/28/02 12:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Basically a full report of whatever you can remember from the experience, including:

General Time of the event

Overall theme

Feelings and emotions felt ... and reactions

Anything that was communicated or felt

Who was present, what were the circumstances surrounding the event

Anything you did before that might effect your state of mind such as mushrooms, meditation, etc..

What you gained or learned from the experience

Anything else you can remember that might be useful


The 'grey' areas can be used too... send whatever you think is helpful.


Edited by Shroomism (08/28/02 12:46 AM)


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