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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #848443 - 08/28/02 06:47 AM (18 years, 27 days ago)

My only concern is that some people sound like they expect this to "prove" something.

Perhaps we should run a similar report side by side with this one to see how a more "normal" human experience (perhaps the experience of love) compares with the more unusual experience of meeting entities. Obviously science can prove nothing about the existence or non-existence of love but our conditioning has taught us to accept it's existence. Similarly there is no way of scientifically proving the human experience with entities, the only difference is our cultural conditioning has taught us to doubt these experiences. The experience of love has no more scientific weight than the experience of meeting entities.

All we'll have in the end is people who've experienced it and people who havn't. Similar to people who've experienced love and people who havn't.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Xlea321]
    #848459 - 08/28/02 07:00 AM (18 years, 27 days ago)

By it's very nature this could not be approached as a physics experiment, it would have to be addressed in a manner such as one would use in sociology or psychology.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Xlea321]
    #848469 - 08/28/02 07:07 AM (18 years, 27 days ago)

Close examination of anything is not harmful except to those afraid the results might not be what they expect. (Please don't read anything personal in here as there is nothing). I think that we are all hoping to learn something rather than to prove something.

If you want to head up a love poll, feel free to do so, but there is no reason to dilute resources and distract the current focus.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Xlea321]
    #848531 - 08/28/02 07:59 AM (18 years, 27 days ago)

I'm approaching this with an open agenda.. I'm not out to 'prove' anything, merely to possibly gain a little insight into the matter. My main focus on the contact experience is the mind states involved, but we will focus on many aspects of it.


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Re: Contact Experiment *DELETED* [Re: Shroomism]
    #848619 - 08/28/02 08:44 AM (18 years, 27 days ago)

Just wondering what the purpose of the "sceptics" is. Are we collecting peoples experiences or are we trying to explain what it might mean? If we're just collecting experience I'm not sure what place there is for the sceptics or the "pro-contact" people..


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Xlea321]
    #848627 - 08/28/02 08:46 AM (18 years, 27 days ago)

I think the skeptics are neccessary.... for what... I don't know just yet

But so far I've got about 20 PMs of people's experiences....very interesting stuff

Keep 'em coming people!


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #849025 - 08/28/02 12:26 PM (18 years, 27 days ago)

can i be in charge of the snack bar?


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Smack31]
    #849043 - 08/28/02 12:34 PM (18 years, 27 days ago)

most definetely


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Swami]
    #849176 - 08/28/02 01:47 PM (18 years, 27 days ago)

I would nominate Mr. Mushrooms or MarkosTheGnostic for that position.

Thank you Swami. I would be honored. It does mean that I will not be submitting my stories though. I was actually going to reveal albeit through a PM what has happened to me.

I have been working on Shroomery projects and haven't been reading but I will set aside some time for this worthy project.

I don't have to wear any clothes for this do I? I always picture neutral parties in the nude.

Cheers,

btw, since the e-mail thing became available my e-mail notifications have stopped. They are trying to fix it.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: ]
    #849371 - 08/28/02 03:27 PM (18 years, 27 days ago)

Or is this just a chance for a few egomaniacs to get the inside scoop on some nutball alien-encounter writings?

Shroomism, you may use my PM any way you wish, but to suppose people will just tell a group of strangers something very personal?

You haven't earned my trust.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: pattern]
    #849454 - 08/28/02 04:19 PM (18 years, 27 days ago)

I hear you Pattern. I haven't told my story to nearly anyone. I have had many requests for it but it is very revealing, intimate. It's like telling someone about making love to your wife or something. I'm glad I'm let off the hook.

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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: ]
    #851108 - 08/29/02 12:57 PM (18 years, 26 days ago)

> I'm glad I'm let off the hook.

No one is "on the hook". So far all I see are people wanting to be judges... where are the subjects? Unless you have those, there is no experiment.

My PM contained no info. Have fun with it.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #852698 - 08/30/02 08:02 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

I voluntier to be the neutral


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #853720 - 08/30/02 07:01 PM (18 years, 25 days ago)

Well, there are three instances off the top of my head, when apparently human beings appeared, and provided me with something that I very much needed at the time. The Bible says that sometimes we 'entertain' angels, unaware of the fact. Humans that are unwittingly the agents of Divine Intervention seems to widen the species of 'alien encounters.' However, I am not convinced that they were 'possessed,' by 'external' beings, as much as humans acting in a capacity that was perhaps influenced in a spiritual way. Whatever the case, tis would seem to compromise my neutrality in such a study.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: pattern]
    #854111 - 08/30/02 11:20 PM (18 years, 25 days ago)

Still waiting.

Cheers,


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: ]
    #854509 - 08/31/02 08:20 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

So I'm wondering where I should start with this... should I just start posting others experiences with their permission? Think I should take out the name of the person to make it anonymous? I think so far have enough material to begin the analysis process.


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Re: Contact Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
    #854560 - 08/31/02 09:06 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

Sounds like a plan Shroomism. By all means do not include their name, moniker, appellation, or anything that signifies who they are.

Let's roll.

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    #854578 - 08/31/02 09:19 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

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