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The Fake Photograph Problem
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By Udo Walendy

In my book Faked Atrocities (distributed by the Institute for Historical Reivew, $5.00) I have described some of the ways in which the German nation is maligned through the use of forged atrocity photographs. My book deals comprehensively with this problem, and shows the following:
How many photos turn up with different captions to suit the circumstance. The caption can describe a totally different location, time, and circumstance to another caption on the same photo published elsewhere.
How many photos are altered; sometimes with no apparent reason; such as in regard to garments, hairstyles, facial expressions. These alterations throw severe doubt on the origin of the photo itself.
How many photos are impossible, in that the shadows are all wrong, or contradictory; or non-existent. Or that the physical anatomy of the persons portrayed is impossible, when compared with skeletons. These types of atrocity pictures are usually paintings or drawings.
How many atrocity pictures are of Communist origin.
How many pictures prove nothing at all. For example a picture of a pile of spectacles, or of false teeth, or of shaving brushes, could easily be taken in a spectacle factory, a false teeth factory, or a shaving brush factory.

In the examples I am today presenting, I wish to show some of the more blatant forgeries. Of course, there were other methods, besides forged photographs, used for brainwashing the German people after the war. For a survey of these, students should refer to my more recent booklet The Methods of Re-Education (also distributed by IHR, $2.00).




More here http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v01/v01p-59_Walendy.html


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: Luddite]
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Wow, what a topic for discussion! :congrats:

I don't think I've ever been this excited.  :crazyeyes:


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: fireworks_god]
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I'm tired of being blamed for Nazi attrocities because some of my ancestors came from Germany in the early 1800's. My father and uncle served in the US Navy and fought against Germany, but having German blood still makes some people suspicious, like some people I've known from England and Australia. England and France caused the Nazis to come to power. It was WWI and the Versailles treaty that did it. France and England were both imperialistic back then and they didn't want Germany moving in on their business. They tried to keep Germany down by starting WWI and imposing the Versailles treaty on Germany.


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Edited by Luddite (04/06/08 11:02 AM)

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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: Luddite]
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Luddite said:
I'm tired of being blamed for Nazi attrocities because some of my ancestors came from Germany in the early 1800's.


So do people cast blame upon you when you walk down the street, or what? Who is blaming you?

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...but having German blood still makes some people suspicious like some people I've known from England and Australia.


There are moronic people from every nation on this planet. If someone looks at a German and are afraid of them being Nazis, then that's their fucked up problem. If you are overly concerned with the baseless judgments of idiots, then you might be carrying with you a fucked up problem too. :shrug:

At least now we have a topic for discussion, why not take some effort when you make a new thread to express some ideas and some points of view?


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
Wow, what a topic for discussion! :congrats:

I don't think I've ever been this excited.  :crazyeyes:


One might argue that he has contributed more to this post than you.  In fact, I will argue that.  You have contributed nothing but snotnosed sophomoric sarcasm.  If you don't have anything to say about the well documented phauxtography scandals than the best thing would be for you to just fuck off out of the thread.  It would be best for everyone.


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: zappaisgod]
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Sorry, but quoting some text that doesn't say anything isn't a topic for discussion. I might not have anything to say about well-documented phauxtography scandals, but neither does the original post. I have no problem leaving this thread to the Islam basher and the self-righteous old man.


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
fireworks_god said:
Wow, what a topic for discussion! :congrats:

I don't think I've ever been this excited.  :crazyeyes:


One might argue that he has contributed more to this post than you.  In fact, I will argue that.  You have contributed nothing but snotnosed sophomoric sarcasm.  If you don't have anything to say about the well documented phauxtography scandals than the best thing would be for you to just fuck off out of the thread.  It would be best for everyone.


Holy shit!  Such hostility!  Everyone just chill and have a bonghit.  I happen to think this topic to be of great interest. 

I happened across a amature documentary by a JEW supporting holocaust revision on GOOGLE vids.  He made some good arguments about how much of what is being branded as original NAZI gas-chambers were actually reconstructions.  History is written by the victors, and much of the 'exterminiation' camps fell behind the iron curtain.  And those SOVIETS(!), they sure are good at telling the truth, and leaving propaganda out of the issue.

You can still see propaganda being mistaken as truth today.


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: Luddite]
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now that I know you're german, you're definitely getting put on ignore.

murderer.


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: Luddite]
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> He made some good arguments about how much of what is being branded as original NAZI gas-chambers were actually reconstructions.

I actually did quite a lot of research on this topic in college (for a stupid English class, of all things.) My conclusion was that the numbers were slightly exaggerated in some cases. However, the Nazis were meticulous record keepers, and it is difficult to dismiss their records as forged or inaccurate (while being easy to show their validity). Based upon the Nazi's own figures, the official numbers are pretty accurate. Based upon testimony from people that were there, on both sides, the numbers stated are fairly accurate. Based upon video footage taken by the Nazis (which is sick, disturbing, and difficult to watch) showing both the conditions of the camps and the efficiency of corpse disposal, there is little question to the accuracy of testimony from people that were there (again, on both sides).

I found a lot of evidence from 'couch critics' showing that the holocaust numbers are inflated, that the 'showers' were showers and not gas chambers, that the ovens couldn't possibly reduce that number of bodies quickly, etc. However, I did not find any evidence from people (guards and captives) that were actually there that would contradict the official numbers. It is hard for me to take the word of an anti-zionist couch critic that has motive to belittle the magnitude of the holocaust over the word of a Nazi prison guard that was actually there.

> I'm tired of being blamed for Nazi attrocities because some of my ancestors came from Germany in the early 1800's.

Oh please, what a @#$#ing lame excuse. I'm half German, with my Grandmother/Grandfather having immigrated to the US from Germany and not ONCE in my entire life have I been 'blamed' or felt that I was being blamed for the Nazi atrocities. By pretending to suffer because of your supposed ties to Nazi past, you are no different than the blacks that claim they are owed something because their ancestors were slaves. Oh, the irony.


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: Seuss]
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Oh please, what a @#$#ing lame excuse. I'm half German, with my Grandmother/Grandfather having immigrated to the US from Germany and not ONCE in my entire life have I been 'blamed' or felt that I was being blamed for the Nazi atrocities. By pretending to suffer because of your supposed ties to Nazi past, you are no different than the blacks that claim they are owed something because their ancestors were slaves. Oh, the irony.


:thumbup:



and about the holocaust deniers or reductionists or whatever...

They're claims, that I've looked at, make the 9/11 truthers look like the epitomy of investigative journalism/science.





but really, luddite, I'm still trying to figure who's puppet you are...  I wonder if you believe half the shit you post

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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: johnm214]
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no different than the blacks that claim they are owed something because their ancestors were slaves.


We could at least fund their schools, IMO.

I'm German too, and have had no problems. :kingtard:


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: johnm214]
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He's G_S's puppet, and a terrible one at that.

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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: Luddite]
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Luddite said:
England and France caused the Nazis to come to power. It was WWI and the Versailles treaty that did it. France and England were both imperialistic back then and they didn't want Germany moving in on their business. They tried to keep Germany down by starting WWI and imposing the Versailles treaty on Germany.


While I won't deny that the devastating economic depression that Germany found itself in after WWI made space for the nazi party to assume control, I can't believe you aren't holding the Nazis themselves accountable for their slow, deliberate rise to power. Hitler himself would be insulted by your claim. In late 20s and early thirties germany there were many political groups all jockeying for position in the chaotic German parliament. By the time of Kristallnacht it was pretty much a heated battle between the communist party and the Nazis for control. Hitler was simply a more ambitious, ruthless, and thuggish politician who had no problem getting blood on his hands, and there was ample public enthusiasm for his Facist, Nationalistic, Militaristic and Anti-Semitic platform for him to bully the competition out of any power. Part of this public support came from the Treaty of Versailles, but it would, and has, filled many books to discuss what other factors lead to this support.

If it was England and France's fault that Facism arose in Germany than it is your fault that the hobos on the other side of town are robbing you to get money to smoke crack and they are the blameless victims, I suppose.


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
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The_Red_Crayon said:
He's G_S's puppet, and a terrible one at that.


At least I don't get on the internet and publically tell everyone that I'm commiting a felony. When I murder someone I'll be sure to post pics here.


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: Luddite]
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Since when did I go on here and tell everyone i committed a felony, your just mad because your a neo-nazi and a holocaust denier.

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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
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You are a shit head. But if it hurts you, I'll be what hurts you.



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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: Luddite]
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Delete that please


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: Luddite]
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Luddite said:
You are a shit head. But if it hurts you, I'll be what hurts you.




Itleast I dont need to minimalize a genocide because of your blind joo hatred, Im from the south and I dont deny that Slavery happened. No excuse for your persecution complex.

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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
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I'm tired of being blamed for Nazi attrocities because some of my ancestors came from Germany in the early 1800's.


Yeah seriously Luddite, cram it up your ass. There are many of us who have German ancestry, being that it is the largest ancestry group in the United States. I have NEVER once felt oppressed for this and I'm going to bet that you haven't either and you're just being the ignorant cunt we all know you to be looking for attention because daddy didn't hug you enough.

As for the Holocaust Denial, give me a break. Perhaps some of the figures may have been exaggerated but you simply can't erase the fact that a systematic extermination of Jews, communists, etc took place during the Third Reich. By denying this well-known fact you are no better than the 9/11 conspiracy theorists you constantly decry in your posts and have lost ALL credibility in this forum. If you're going to try and make a point at least write your own goddamned post rather than copy-pasting some bullshit from a white nationalist website.

Do us all a favour and tuck your tail between your legs and leave this forum you flaming sack of shit.


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Re: The Fake Photograph Problem [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
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:awesome:

Wow, what a callout...


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I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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