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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: Zahid]
    #1956750 - 09/27/03 07:53 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Well said.


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.

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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1957367 - 09/27/03 02:14 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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zahid - I'm really not sorry at all. Once they act more human, i'll recognize them as humans, until they, they are unevolved beasts


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If you deny others their humanity, you deserve to be denied your own.


Not every Muslim is a terrorist. But, there is a very disconcerting
thing that is occurring around this world. Everywhere where there
is an insurrection, 95% of the time it is caused by Muslim
fundamentalists. Often they seem to engage in horrific tactics(such
as the killing of innocent civilians, torture, barbaric murders,
etc...). If Islam is a peaceful religion, why are there
millions of Muslims around the world who think that these vicious
acts of violence against non-combatants are justified?

All religions have their extremists. But, Muslim extremists seem
to outnumber all other extremists by a vast margin.

I think every one of these people should be tracked down
and systematically executed so that their fetid existences come
to an end.



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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #1957382 - 09/27/03 02:19 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Islam is still relatively young as a religion. It's basically at the point right now that Christianity was at during the Middle Ages. I think if we give it time, it'll go from terrorist attacks to just annoying televangelists asking for money.


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: silversoul7]
    #1957406 - 09/27/03 02:27 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

the muslim areas of the world were at one time centers of much cultural and techological development.

that was when islam was much younger than it is now.

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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: silversoul7]
    #1957408 - 09/27/03 02:28 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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I think if we give it time, it'll go from terrorist attacks to just annoying televangelists asking for money.



Great. That means if we leave them alone to kill and maim at will, eventually they'll get over it and we can all live happily ever after.

I'm sure those who are killed by them will be glad to know it'll all work out in the end.


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1958423 - 09/27/03 10:03 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

"the killing of innocent civilians"
your right, and seeing as how this never happens when any other countries or sub fedral orginizations wage war or commit acts of terror, its a brilliant argument as to why sand niggers are evil...

"Great. That means if we leave them alone to kill and maim at will, eventually they'll get over it and we can all live happily ever after."

it was a joke.

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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1958455 - 09/27/03 10:16 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
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I think if we give it time, it'll go from terrorist attacks to just annoying televangelists asking for money.



Great. That means if we leave them alone to kill and maim at will, eventually they'll get over it and we can all live happily ever after.

I'm sure those who are killed by them will be glad to know it'll all work out in the end.




What do you mean by "them"?

What do you suggest then? Bomb Mecca?


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #1958980 - 09/28/03 02:55 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Not every Muslim is a terrorist. But, there is a very disconcerting
thing that is occurring around this world. Everywhere where there
is an insurrection, 95% of the time it is caused by Muslim
fundamentalists.


Please provide sources instead of pulling bogus statistics out of your ass.

Often they seem to engage in horrific tactics(such
as the killing of innocent civilians, torture, barbaric murders,
etc...).


Ever heard of My Lai?

If Islam is a peaceful religion, why are there
millions of Muslims around the world who think that these vicious
acts of violence against non-combatants are justified?


If America is such a peaceful country, why are there millions of Americans who unthinkingly support every single military action the United States takes?

Islamic fundamentalists who use violence to support their ideology are scum. American nationalists who support the use of state violence to support THEIR ideologies are also scum. I don't take sides in these matters. Anybody who supports the use of violence to support their ideologies is scum.

All religions have their extremists. But, Muslim extremists seem
to outnumber all other extremists by a vast margin.


Patriotism/nationalism is also a religion, and has plenty of extremist adherents all over the world. They are also scum.

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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1959005 - 09/28/03 03:15 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, dogmatic securalism is just as bad as fundalmentalist religion.


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: Zahid]
    #1959150 - 09/28/03 06:08 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

What do you mean by "them"?



Well if you come down off your high horse and re-read the post I responded to, I bet you'll be able to answer that all by yourself.


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1959282 - 09/28/03 09:24 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

So you can say "That's not what I meant by them, please state where i defined the meaning of them, I bet you can't".

Why not explain precisely what you mean for once?


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1959294 - 09/28/03 09:39 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

why must there be democracy? thats such a big question in my mind, why cant people run their countries the way they want to? it jus makes no sense.


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: monoamine]
    #1959365 - 09/28/03 10:24 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, dogmatic securalism is just as bad as fundalmentalist religion.



Really? Then why are there so many more Islamic terrorists than there are terrorists who kill in the name of Dogmatic Secularism?

Islam has a couple of built-in ideological problems. They won't go away just because we can identify various traces of dogmatism in other ideologies.

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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: Xlea321]
    #1959543 - 09/28/03 11:39 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
So you can say "That's not what I meant by them, please state where i defined the meaning of them, I bet you can't".

Why not explain precisely what you mean for once? 



Good luck with that. :rolleyes:


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: silversoul7]
    #1959581 - 09/28/03 12:04 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

agreed, some people just dodge, these things so as not to look as tho they have sed something stupid, own up to ur shit like a man.


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: Solitude]
    #1959772 - 09/28/03 01:44 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Solitude asks:

why must there be democracy? thats such a big question in my mind, why cant people run their countries the way they want to? it jus makes no sense.

Who are you defining as "people"? Hussein ran "his" country the way he wanted. Castro runs "his" country the way he wants to.

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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: Xlea321]
    #1959882 - 09/28/03 02:31 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Why not explain precisely what you mean for once?



Sorry Alpo. I figured you were smart enough to get this one without help.




silversoul7 said

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I think if we give it time, it'll go from terrorist attacks to just annoying televangelists asking for money.


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Great. That means if we leave them alone to kill and maim at will, eventually they'll get over it and we can all live happily ever after.

I'm sure those who are killed by them will be glad to know it'll all work out in the end.




Clear enough for you now?


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1959974 - 09/28/03 03:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

castro is on lock, the US could care less about him but what i meant is that if ur not under the thumb the US wants you there. and all people can think to say is "well they dont have a democracy so its ok".


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1960014 - 09/28/03 03:20 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Stop misoverestimating.


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Re: The REAL problem with the Middle East [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1960019 - 09/28/03 03:23 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Great. That means if we leave them alone to kill and maim at will, eventually they'll get over it and we can all live happily ever after.

I'm sure those who are killed by them will be glad to know it'll all work out in the end.



Sorry.  I forgot to include this :smirk: to indicate sarcasm.


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