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OfflineLearyfanS
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Turkey Bush held was a fake
    #2161225 - 12/05/03 01:42 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Oh God, this is too good. I sometimes think the Bush administration subconsciously does things like this just to ruin their own crediblity. This guy uses troops like toilet paper.



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Photograph of Fake Turkey Captures Bush Misleading


In the most famous picture from his trip to Baghdad, President Bush had himself artfully photographed to look like he was serving turkey to the troops. The image was emblazoned on front pages throughout the country - and now appears to be an entirely false depiction.

According to the Washington Post, Bush was actually holding "a decoration, not a serving plate." In other words, he was holding a prop, not real food, and thus only pretending for the cameras to be serving up the holiday meal.

The Post notes that "the foray has opened new credibility questions for a White House that has dealt with issues" like this in the past. In fact, the flap marks the second such distortion in as many days about his trip to Baghdad. Just yesterday it was revealed that the White House's tall tale of Air Force One crossing paths with a British Airways plane was entirely false.3

The deceptive picture also harkens back to the controversy surrounding the President's "Mission Accomplished" banner4. On May 1, he stood on the deck of the U.S.S. Lincoln in front of the giant sign and declared that "major combat operations have ended."5 Since that time, more troops have been killed or wounded than before he made that statement, prompting more questions about his photo-op.6

When asked why he chose to stand in front of the "Mission Accomplished" banner at a press conference six months later, Bush "disavowed the background banner," saying the White House staff had nothing to do with producing it.7 But then Navy and administration officials admitted the President had been dishonest, saying that "the White House actually made it."8 White House spokesman Scott McClellan specifically said, "We took care of the production of it. We have people to do those things."

Of course, Bush's penchant for taking misleading and dishonest photos has not been confined to Iraq. In July of 2002, the President visited a low-income housing development in Atlanta to tout his commitment to funding it. He then proposed a budget that eliminated its funding9,10. Similarly, the President visited a Boys and Girls Club in January of 2003 to tout the organization's efforts.11 He said the club "has got a grand history of helping children." Just four days after his photo-op, he proposed to cut 15% out of funding for the Boys and Girls Club12.

Sources:
CBSNews.com, 11/27/2003.
"The Bird Was Perfect But Not For Dinner", Washington Post, 12/04/2003.
"Pilots Didn't Radio Air Force One, Airline Says", Washington Post, 12/02/2003.
CBSNews.com, 10/29/2003.
"President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended", WhiteHouse.Gov, 05/01/2003.
"Postwar Deaths of U.S. Troops in Iraq Exceeds Combat Toll", New York Time, 08/26/2003.
"Bush disavows background banner in May speech", USA Today, 10/28/2003.
"White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign", CNN, 10/29/2003.
President Calls for Expanding Opportunities to Home Ownership, 06/17/2003.
Atlanta Journal Constitution, 2/5/2003.
President Commemorates 1st Anniversary of Freedom Corps, 01/30/2003.
CNN Crossfire, 1/30/03.


The fucking Turkey was FAKE. Just like everything else the Bush administration does. Christ, how symbolic.




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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2161386 - 12/05/03 02:24 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

so what? they flew in a fake turkey?? how contrived! what a bunch of nut-cases.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2161397 - 12/05/03 02:26 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

That is some funny stuff! :lol: 


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2161437 - 12/05/03 02:34 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

There's one in the Washington Post about this too (emphasis mine):

Quote:

The Bird Was Perfect But Not For Dinner
In Iraq Picture, Bush Is Holding the Centerpiece

By Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, December 4, 2003; Page A33

President Bush's Baghdad turkey was for looking, not for eating.

In the most widely published image from his Thanksgiving day trip to Baghdad, the beaming president is wearing an Army workout jacket and surrounded by soldiers as he cradles a huge platter laden with a golden-brown turkey.

The bird is so perfect it looks as if it came from a food magazine, with bunches of grapes and other trimmings completing a Norman Rockwell image that evokes bounty and security in one of the most dangerous parts of the world.

But as a small sign of the many ways the White House maximized the impact of the 21/2-hour stop at the Baghdad airport, administration officials said yesterday that Bush picked up a decoration, not a serving plate.

Officials said they did not know the turkey would be there or that Bush would pick it up. A contractor had roasted and primped the turkey to adorn the buffet line, while the 600 soldiers were served from cafeteria-style steam trays, the officials said. They said the bird was not placed there in anticipation of Bush's stealthy visit, and military sources said a trophy turkey is a standard feature of holiday chow lines.

The scene, which lasted just a few seconds, was not visible to a reporter who was there but was recorded by a pool photographer and described by officials yesterday in response to questions raised in Washington.

Bush's standing rose in a poll conducted immediately after the trip. Administration officials said the presidential stop provided a morale boost that troops in Iraq are still talking about, and helped reassure Iraqis about U.S. intentions.

Nevertheless, the foray has opened new credibility questions for a White House that has dealt with issues as small as who placed the "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the aircraft carrier Bush used to proclaim the end of major combat operations in Iraq, and as major as assertions about Saddam Hussein's arsenal of unconventional weapons and his ability to threaten the United States.

The White House has updated its account of an airborne conversation in which a British Airways pilot wondered into his radio if he had just seen Air Force One and was told that it was a Gulfstream 5, a much smaller plane. White House officials first said that the British Airways pilot had talked with the Air Force One pilot. Bush aides now say the conversation occurred between the British Airways pilot and an air traffic control worker.

"I don't think everybody was clear on exactly how that conversation happened," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

British Airways said it has been unable to confirm the new version. "We've looked into it," a spokeswoman said from London. "It didn't happen."

White House officials do not deny that they craft elaborate events to showcase Bush, but they maintain that these events are designed to accurately dramatize his policies and to convey qualities about him that are real.

"This was effective, because it captured something about the president that people know is true, that he really cares about the soldiers and gets emotional when he sees them," Mary Matalin, a former administration official, said about the trip to Baghdad. "You have to figure out how to capture the Bush we know, even if it doesn't come through in a speech situation or a press conference. He regularly rejects anything that is not him."

The Democratic presidential candidates tipped their hats to the White House stage managers by refusing to criticize the trip, which dominated weekend newscasts.

Aides to the Democrats said they concluded that the less said about the trip, the better. In the view of these aides, the trip produced reassuring images of a situation that has badly deteriorated, and Democrats just wanted the moment to pass so they could go back to criticizing Bush's postwar policy.

A poll conducted four days after Thanksgiving by the National Annenberg Election Survey put Bush's job approval rating at 61 percent, up from 56 percent during the four days before the holiday. His job disapproval rating dropped from 41 percent to 36 percent. His personal popularity increased from 65 percent to 72 percent. The polls of 789 people before Thanksgiving and 847 people after Thanksgiving each had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

The trip was pulled off in total secrecy -- only a few Bush aides and reporters knew about it in advance, and they were allowed to discuss it only on secure phone lines. Reporters covering the Thanksgiving program in Baghdad were not allowed to report the event until after Air Force One had left.

Some of the reporters left behind at Crawford Middle School, where they work when Bush is staying at his Texas ranch, felt they had been deceived by White House accounts of what Bush would be doing on Thanksgiving.

Correspondent Mark Knoller said Sunday on "CBS Evening News" that the misleading information and deception were understandable, but that he had been "filing radio reports that amounted to fiction."

"Even as President Bush was addressing U.S. personnel in Baghdad, I was on the air saying he was at his ranch making holiday phone calls to American troops overseas," Knoller said. "I got that information from a White House official that very morning."




I don't agree with Az's idea that the trip itselfwas staged, but to me it doesn't look like he was that wide of the mark.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Positronius]
    #2161544 - 12/05/03 02:57 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Quote:

Positronius said:
so what? they flew in a fake turkey?? how contrived! what a bunch of nut-cases.




I can't tell what you mean by this. If you're saying "who cares if they flew in a fake turkey", then my response is that this is another example of Bush staging events to look good in 2004 by using the troops whom he sent to Iraq to die. It proves that the trip to Iraq was not in any way to give the troops a pat on the back or to raise moral. He's just straight up using the troops.

I agree Edame, AZ wasn't too off the mark with his belief that the trip was fake. I still think he went to Iraq, but for completely selfish reasons. This is another insult to the troops.




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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2161561 - 12/05/03 03:01 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

LOL! what perfect symbolism!
look at what they're trying to feed us!


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2161611 - 12/05/03 03:16 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

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LOL! what perfect symbolism!
look at what they're trying to feed us!





Haha. The only way it could be more perfect is if they had made the turkey out of actual bovine excrement.






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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2161640 - 12/05/03 03:24 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

You've got to be kidding me...


TV commercials for fast food don't use real food either (not that the crap they serve is 'real food'). They have an artist come in and decorate it.

The flight jacket that Bush wore, oh my god, hes not part of that unit! He has gel in his hair, thats fake!

At least he isnt' killing off his advisors a la clinton


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2161657 - 12/05/03 03:30 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

How typical...whenever Bush starts getting attacked..someone always pipes up to say that "oh yeah...well Clinton did.."

They have NOTHING to do with eachother...Nobody here likes Clinton as far as I can see...so it's a moot point.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Rono]
    #2161693 - 12/05/03 03:38 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Well, since you are grasping at straws for a reason to hate a white, conservative man (obviously NOT what the founding fathers had in mind for our country, don'tchaknow!), I'll just chalk it up to childish immaturity. This seems to BARELY be legitimate for the political forum, tho.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2161705 - 12/05/03 03:42 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Grasping at straws?...You gotta be kidding me.

This is the most blatantly corrupt administration that I can remember...if you like Bush, fine...but don't try to blow sunshine up my ass and tell me he's a great guy that's just misunderstood.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Rono]
    #2161709 - 12/05/03 03:43 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

You don't understand Rono, he got a blow-job! A blow-job!!  :lol: 


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Rono]
    #2161710 - 12/05/03 03:43 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Yeah, exactly. I don't think even one person here likes Clinton. And he mentioned that he believes Clinton had is advisors killed. That's such a conspiracy theory. I wouldn't put it past Clinton to do that, but that theory puts him in the same league as us.

Try to understand E man, Bush holding a fake turkey soley for the purpose of looking good for the cameras, is good evidence that he only went to Iraq.......soley for the purpose of looking good for the cameras, which means that he could give a shit about the troops.

He doesn't go to any funerals and this is the closest thing he's done to show that he cares about the troops and it turns out to be simply a photo op. What a fucking scumbag. I can't believe you guys will defend this guy to the end, to.






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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2161791 - 12/05/03 04:06 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Enima is **edited by Rono*** (I suggest you read the forum rules before posting)

this is what he put in one of my threads

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Well, Arab's can't help their poor genetic makeup




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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: LaCasta]
    #2161808 - 12/05/03 04:10 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

why all the bush bashing. hes successfully led two wars and seen our country through its most difficult times since vietnam. plus the economy is on the rebound. and look at the democrats would ya? theyre no better.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: jfeow]
    #2161840 - 12/05/03 04:19 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

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why all the bush bashing. hes successfully led two wars and seen our country through its most difficult times since vietnam. plus the economy is on the rebound. and look at the democrats would ya? theyre no better.




He led two 'successful' wars of agression against 2 countries that didn't stand a chance in the name of oil...good for him.

He's created the biggest debt that the U.S. has ever seen...and went from a budget surplus left by the Dems to a Deficit...and you are patting him on the back for the econimical rebound?

At least I know what type of people are voting for Bush now...it explains alot.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2161859 - 12/05/03 04:24 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

There are two fake turkeys in the photo below...



EDIT: change title...


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2161884 - 12/05/03 04:30 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Edit: Silly me  :smirk:


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


Edited by Edame (12/05/03 05:20 PM)


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Positronius]
    #2162044 - 12/05/03 05:11 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

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Positronius said:
so what? they flew in a fake turkey?? 




Nope, bush never even went. :smirk:
Fake turkey,
Fake visit,
Fake photos,

...lets see one of him in iraq....there aren't any! Just stupid actors with grins on thier faces in the same bunker or wherever they are.

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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2162108 - 12/05/03 05:29 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Weak. Oh so weak. Most likely every president since the invention of the camera has had staged photos.

There's enough actual crap to bitch about without going on about that picture.

I mean really.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Azmodeus]
    #2162120 - 12/05/03 05:32 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

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Nope, bush never even went. :smirk:
Fake turkey,
Fake visit,
Fake photos,
...lets see one of him in iraq....there aren't any! Just stupid actors with grins on thier faces in the same bunker or wherever they are.



I think that they are in the bunker in Area 51, the signals in my head keep going off, had to use the last of the foil for Thanksgiving dinner.

Do you know what "proof" is?  why in the name of fucking god would bush be outside for any extended period of time on Iraq?
1) the numerous, ununiformed terrorists
2) The blazing hot weather
3) The dinner was indoors
4) The sand

Which one...


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2162501 - 12/05/03 07:48 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

American military morale hit an all-time low this week in the wake of revelations that President George Bush didn't serve a display turkey to hungry troops during his surprise visit to Baghdad last week. Political experts have already dubbed the episode "turkeygate," and predict that the effect of this latest Bush administration scandal will be even more devastating than the outing of Valerie Plame.

"When I went home after dinner that night, I wrote a letter to my wife about how proud I was to fight for liberty," said an unnamed Army staff sergeant, "but when I learned that not a single soldier ate the display turkey, even though the president was photographed holding it, my faith in democracy was shattered."

Another soldier added, "We suddenly realized that we're risking our lives to defend a lie. He mocked us with the pretty bird, then served us the common steamtable turkey. What good is freedom, if you can't trust your leaders?"

http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001395.html

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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phred]
    #2162549 - 12/05/03 08:08 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

:lol:


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phred]
    #2162556 - 12/05/03 08:13 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

I didn't know of that site. I loved the endorsement page.





Here's my favorite.....
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That lds guy must be a very wise man!   


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    #2162585 - 12/05/03 08:24 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

It's similar in many ways to The Onion. Scrappleface is always good for a few words of wisdom. Check the thread about the fat guy that croaked while resisting arrest -- I linked another Scrappleface article there.

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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2162637 - 12/05/03 08:49 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Did you realy think that they were gong to get a REAL turkey for thanksgiving?

No, they cook up processed turkey loafs for the men and women, powdered gravy and instant potatoes... Its tha tradition...

Propably the best meal they get but what a good chance to make America think that our troops get a slow roasted, home cooked meal for the holidays with all the trimmings...


I still think that he NEVER flew to Baghdad. I believe that the entire thing was filmed in a hangar somewhere in the US with paid US Military actors who get out of doing combat for their roll in "civil media defence"...


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: GabbaDj]
    #2162672 - 12/05/03 09:10 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

I would love it if that was proven to be the truth.




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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Rono]
    #2162768 - 12/05/03 09:59 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

why do you even talk to this emintpatrydildofag dude? why doesnt everyone just put him on ignore? i dont think there is even one person here who doesnt think hes a complete retard. he makes LDS look like someone almost worth listening to.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2162797 - 12/05/03 10:16 PM (18 years, 2 days ago)

Wouldn't it be neat if it turned out that Bush is really an android.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2162864 - 12/05/03 11:00 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

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LOL! what perfect symbolism!
look at what they're trying to feed us!




No fucking shit...that's hillarious

When will Bush get caught with his fake economic recovery...his fake war on terror...etc?

What an assinine bunch of fuckhead losers. Who would stage a fake meal? What kind of sick fucking mind concieves of such a thing?

I can understand lying about getting a blowjob...but lying about serving dinner?

Too much...too much funny...


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: carbonhoots]
    #2162896 - 12/05/03 11:29 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

That's an awful lot of fuss over some fancy holiday decorations.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2162983 - 12/06/03 12:05 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

You don't get it. Those holiday decorations prove Bush lied.

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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: carbonhoots]
    #2163010 - 12/06/03 12:15 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

carbonhoots writes:

When will Bush get caught with his fake economic recovery...

What part of the economic recovery is fake?

...his fake war on terror...

The captured terrorists are fake? Which ones?

Who would stage a fake meal? What kind of sick fucking mind concieves of such a thing?

What on earth are you busting a blood vessel over? There was no fake meal... the troops got a turkey dinner. For a while Bush got behind the counter and slopped some of those yummy Army goodies onto plates. There have been pictures posted in this forum that show him doing just that.

So he also grabbed a platter with a "display bird" from the end of the counter, hoisted it up and probably made some lame-ass corny Bush joke while a press corps photographer clicked away. So what? What kind of sick fucking mind turns this into some kind of major scandal?

Some of you people REALLY need to get a life.

I can understand lying about getting a blowjob...but lying about serving dinner?

Again, he didn't lie about serving dinner. He actually served a bunch of troops dinner from behind the counter of the chow line.

Too much...too much funny...

What's too much and too funny is the incredible amount of energy the Angry Left is assigning to this. If it weren't so pathetic, I'd be laughing my ass off.

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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phred]
    #2163015 - 12/06/03 12:17 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

If I understand correctly, Bush sailed to Iraq in the Mayflower.

If someone could confirm this I would be much interested.

Thanks.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phred]
    #2163063 - 12/06/03 12:35 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

Much like his recent lying about not having the "Mission Accomplished" banner put up on the aircraft carrier, this is another example of Bush's dishonesty.

Once again he's used the troops for his own benifit. Only this time on a much smaller scale in comparison to sending them out to war for oil.

I hope you don't trust people who lie to you this much in real life.







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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2163068 - 12/06/03 12:39 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

Dude, your monomania about "Bush lied" and "Bush knew" is seriously not good for your psychological health.

What on earth about that footage in any way shape or form constitutes a lie? The man hoisted a decorative platter in the air for thirty seconds or so, then went on with his visit to the troops. Get over it.

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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phred]
    #2163131 - 12/06/03 01:11 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

Pinky...

You were really being quite assuming of my motivations there...


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: carbonhoots]
    #2163319 - 12/06/03 02:54 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

So a camera guy takes a pic of him holding the deco bird and an editor puts a caption "bush serves turkey to troops" on it then someone says "hey, that was just a deco bird" and now bush lied? It would seem that the media lied to you not Bush. Only question is did the media do it on purpose.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: carbonhoots]
    #2163675 - 12/06/03 09:21 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

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Pinky...

You were really being quite assuming of my motivations there...




Seems that he hit the nail right on the head.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2163767 - 12/06/03 10:51 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

I think there are some issues that matter, and some that don't.

So he didn't serve anyone turkey, big deal. There are real issues to be dealt with.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phluck]
    #2163819 - 12/06/03 11:40 AM (18 years, 1 day ago)

I think it's odd that people seem to be ignoring the
larger symbolism of this entire gesture.

first the fake contact with british air, then
the fake turkey.

what's next?

we find out those weren't really troops and
that wasn't really iraq?

sure, so what it's fake, BUT WHAT'S THE FUCKING
POINT OF POSING WITH A FAKE TURKEY IN THE
FIRST PLACE?

you can say we're being lied to by the media who
took the picture, but christ, the president is still
allowing himself to post for contrived photo ops and
allowing the lies surrounding them to be perpetuated.

and what of the soldier's funerals?

not one of you flag waving patriots is the slightest
bit concerned or curious as to why our president is
the first, especially in wartime, not to attend at least
ONE soldier's funeral?

sure, all these little things like outing CIA agents, blocking
investigations, stonewalling information, invading countries,
giving handouts to old business partners and outright lying
to voters, on their own all seem small issues, but when
taken in sum...this guy is a fucking SCUMBAG!!!!111

ps. economic recovery borrowed against future taxes and
present debt is no recovery at all...this is like going on a
shopping spree using your credit card...your standard of
living goes up briefly until your fiscal day of reckoning comes.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phluck]
    #2164032 - 12/06/03 01:20 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

You guys will defend him until the minute you?re pushed onto the cattle cars





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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: afoaf]
    #2164105 - 12/06/03 01:44 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

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I think it's odd that people seem to be ignoring the
larger symbolism of this entire gesture.



Sorry but what's odd is that anyone gives a shit.

You've never posed for a pic?

Really man, hatred will harm you far more than it'll ever harm Bush.

Worry about something that matters. This sure as hell doesn't and merely makes you appear petty.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Learyfan]
    #2164108 - 12/06/03 01:46 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

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You guys will defend him until the minute you're pushed onto the cattle cars



The Hitler comparisons make you seem even more petty.

There is nothing wrong with posing for a pic.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phred]
    #2164111 - 12/06/03 01:48 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

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What's too much and too funny is the incredible amount of energy the Angry Left is assigning to this.



When they get as desperate as this, they'll whine about anything.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2164292 - 12/06/03 03:25 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

Tax dollars, intelligence, and our leader to fly the president into our enemy's capitol city. To help troop moral maybe... but not for a presidential campaign!


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phluck]
    #2164294 - 12/06/03 03:26 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

Phluck writes:

So he didn't serve anyone turkey, big deal.

You're right about this being a tempest in a teapot. But just to set the record straight one more time --

He did get behind the counter and serve turkey dinner to some troops. He did not carve up the display bird and serve it to anyone.

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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2164311 - 12/06/03 03:32 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

White House officials do not deny that they craft elaborate events to showcase Bush, but they maintain that these events are designed to accurately dramatize his policies and to convey qualities about him that are real.

There's posing for a picture, and there's creating a self-serving photo-op that possibly puts people's lives in danger. With the behaviour demonstrated by Bush so far, I know which of the two it looks like to me.

But other soldiers grew angry that their departure from the airport was delayed for an hour, while they waited for Air Force One to leave. Finding the door barred, about 50 troops got into a shouting match with the soldier blocking their exit. The streets of Baghdad were too dangerous to delay their departure any longer, they shouted.

"Do you have any idea how many IEDs are on this road?" one soldier who didn't give his name shouted, referring to improvised explosive devices or roadside bombs. "I have to get back to my base. I don't want to lose a soldier because the president wants us to sit here."


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phred]
    #2164373 - 12/06/03 04:05 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

i was glad when i heard he visited baghdad.

but it kind of bugs me that he does something good for our troops and
then slips in a little photo op for himself.

its not really a big deal.. i think i just want my president to be more
selfless and modest.

shrug.


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    #2165003 - 12/06/03 09:04 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

So you would have been happier about the whole thing if they had not allowed reporters to accompany him.

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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Phred]
    #2165061 - 12/06/03 09:34 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

maybe moreso if it seemed a little more sincere
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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: afoaf]
    #2165067 - 12/06/03 09:36 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

How did you get the impression that it was contrived, and not just a picture of Bush holding a holiday decoration?

Would you have felt better about it if it were one of those crappy paper turkeys.

I wonder if that was a standard military thanksgiving meal decoration, or if it was flown in especially for this one event.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2165152 - 12/06/03 10:02 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

no, the whole ordeal, not just the turkey thing.


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Re: Turkey Bush held was a fake [Re: afoaf]
    #2166994 - 12/07/03 06:32 PM (18 years, 3 hours ago)

Thih can only mean one thing.. Bush is barely qualified to hold let alone cut a real turkey..


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