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Offlinefriartuck
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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1418027 - 03/30/03 11:10 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Okay...what evidence that was presented was not fake?


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: friartuck]
    #1418029 - 03/30/03 11:12 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

And luvdem, I am to understand that you believe this war is unjust?
This is your claim?

If so I apologize for misjudging you.


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: friartuck]
    #1418071 - 03/30/03 12:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

He called you doodie.  :wink:


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Skikid16]
    #1418145 - 03/30/03 01:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Heh


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: friartuck]
    #1421021 - 04/01/03 05:02 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Once you learn and understand that the USA govt. is manipulating the American people by conducting "terrorist attacks" and by putting out mass ammounts of misinformation (lies) to wage wars in order for the American people to give up thier constitutional rights, so that this govt. can assume total global financial control...

...it all becomes clear.




Please note that the American people do not gain anything from said global financial control.

(this is in response to the thread and not just tuck)


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: BowlKiller]
    #1421330 - 04/01/03 11:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

"Once you learn and understand that the USA govt. is manipulating the American people by conducting "terrorist attacks" and by putting out mass ammounts of misinformation (lies) to wage wars in order for the American people to give up thier constitutional rights, so that this govt. can assume total global financial control... "

To believe that the terrorist attacks are all the doing of the american government in order to remove constitutional rights is totally ridiculous. There is no good evidence that the attacks were carried out by the american government, vs. lots of good evidence that they were carried out by Al Qaeda, a terrorist group which very plausibly has a beef with the US.

Thinking that there is some huge conspiracy behind this is really, really stupid. This is not something you can "learn and realize", for there is no solid evidence for it. Your belief in this is religious in nature, and not scientific. In other words: stupid.

Thinking that the government is spreading misinformation in order to further their agenda does have a basis, that has been provided. Seeing the shitty job they've done with that, it's hard to imagine they'd be able to pull off a massive international conspiracy, with actors playing Bin Laden and all these other people.


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Phluck]
    #1421372 - 04/01/03 11:52 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Don't be ridiculous Phluck. There is evidence of American involvement in 9/11. I'm not saying that Al-Queda was involved, but I am saying that the US was aware of the attack and allowed it to happen in order to further its own agenda. There is about one ton of (circumstantial) evidence that backs up this claim, including US funding of the Taliban, reports of meetings between CIA agents and Bin Laden, the fact that the US happened to be running "military training exercises" off the coast of Afghanistan at the time of the attack, and a pile of other coincidences. To discount the conspiracy as childish paranoia is dangerous and likely misinformed.

The Anthrax attacks were also conducted by Americans. The recipiants of the Anthrax included high-profile news journalists and Congressmen who were the most greatly opposed to passing the Patriot Act. The attacks were launched four days before the Patriot Act was voted through Congress. Again, the team with the strongest motive is the current administration.


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: friartuck]
    #1421413 - 04/01/03 12:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

why do you care what i think of this thread? I didn't notice it until now.

The worst way to get me involved with a topic is to say "i wonder where inny is".

There has not been one topic that you have started that:
a. impressed me
b. provoked thought
c. made any sense
d. wasn't anti-bush/american

if you want to discuss something with me start a thread. This time don't bail out like you did in our ABM discussion....


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1421423 - 04/01/03 12:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder where pinky is? :grin:


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1421428 - 04/01/03 01:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

pm him...

are you guys just lonely?


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1421436 - 04/01/03 01:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, its just not as busy here recently....
I get bored without enough people to debate/argue/slander etc... :frown:


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: friartuck]
    #1421444 - 04/01/03 01:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly, I'm with you there, friartuck, there's a lot that is unknown about 9/11.

Have you ever heard about the - very plausible - theory that flight 77 never hit the Pentagon, and that it was a missile instead? Lots of material evidence there also. I'm not going to list it all here, look it up if you wish.

The funny thing is that Donald Rumsfeld inadvertently admitted this in an interview given a month after 9/11 at the Pentagon.

Quote :

"Q: This is a question that's been asked by many Americans, but especially by the widows of September 11th. How were we so asleep at the switch? How did a war targeting civilians arrive on our homeland with seemingly no warning?

Rumsfeld: There were lots of warnings. [...] It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them."

Click on the link, it's an official military site.


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Aldous]
    #1421450 - 04/01/03 01:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Wow.  I dont think i'm that surprises though. :tongue:


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1421482 - 04/01/03 01:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't see it as a coincidence that you do not respond to the most incriminating threads against your allegiance. In fact, your ignoring the arguments being made by the "terrorist liberals" is the only explanation for your continued allegiance to the current American regime.

Take a look at your reaction to this thread. Do you make any attempt to refute the claims that the Americans forged the evidence that they are using as justification for war. How can you ignore such an allegation? Yet, you have. You pay more attention to my pointing out your lack of presence then you do refuting, and I'd bet even considering the real substance of this thread.



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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Aldous]
    #1421660 - 04/01/03 05:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Have you ever heard about the - very plausible - theory that flight 77 never hit the Pentagon, and that it was a missile instead? Lots of material evidence there also. I'm not going to list it all here, look it up if you wish.




On this subject, http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm is quite a good place for pictures... I remember at the time wondering why so little structural damage had been done considering a plane had supposedly hit it..


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Phluck]
    #1421731 - 04/01/03 06:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

To believe that the terrorist attacks are all the doing of the american government in order to remove constitutional rights is totally ridiculous. There is no good evidence that the attacks were carried out by the american government, vs. lots of good evidence that they were carried out by Al Qaeda, a terrorist group which very plausibly has a beef with the US.

Thinking that there is some huge conspiracy behind this is really, really stupid. This is not something you can "learn and realize", for there is no solid evidence for it. Your belief in this is religious in nature, and not scientific. In other words: stupid.



Why Phluck.... I'm amazed!


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1421752 - 04/01/03 06:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

There is no good evidence that the attacks were carried out by the american government


True..but there is alot of evidence to support the fact that they let it happen.


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Rono]
    #1421759 - 04/01/03 06:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

and were totally aware it was going to happen.


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: Rono]
    #1421774 - 04/01/03 06:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well I realize you and the other libbies here think so. But hey, even lame thinkers are allowed to spout an opinion as most of the libbies here prove on a regular basis.


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Re: Faked documents, embarassed Americans. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1421782 - 04/01/03 06:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've never quite understood why I constantly get called a "Libbie"...
1) I'm not American
2) I despised Clinton almost as much as I despise Bush..almost.
3) The Liberal party is the worst thing that has ever happened to my country.
4) I don't support gun control / registration.

Is it purely for the reason that I can't stand Shrub and his corrupt cronies?


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