Home | Community | Message Board


RVF Garden Supply
Please support our sponsors.

General Interest >> Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop: Jimi Hendrix

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Slot Machines & Spirituality
    #803865 - 08/08/02 06:11 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Got some SPAM today from Tolly Burkan who popularized firewalking in the late '80s.

"Using Slot Machines as Biofeedback Devices: Awakening through the Unconventional."

Hey, I don't make this stuff up!

He is pushing a $500 seminar in how to beat Las Vegas using "spiritual principles". Uh-huh. This is your typical scam with the ever-present escape clause used so frequently on these boards.

If you win: You have obviously mastered the principles!

If you lose: You need more practice and insight, but soon you will be rolling in the cash once you apply faith and grok how the universe works!




--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinepostalboy
I'm not myfucking khaki's!
Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 228
Loc: My tiny corner of the pad...
Last seen: 14 years, 2 months
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Swami]
    #803876 - 08/08/02 06:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Where do I sign up. I have 500 bucks burning a hole in my pocket. I need to spend it on premature enlightenment.
And I also noticed that I believe you are the only other person I have ever seen use the word grok in normal conversation. I do and then I have to try to explain it to people who have never read the Book. It is such a great word. Thou art god.


--------------------
"You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." F and L in L.V.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleXlea321
Stranger
Registered: 02/26/01
Posts: 9,134
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Swami]
    #803886 - 08/08/02 06:36 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

This is your typical scam with the ever-present escape clause used so frequently on these boards.

Can't be that frequently. I've never seen it used.


--------------------
Don't worry, B. Caapi


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Xlea321]
    #803896 - 08/08/02 06:46 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Apparently you read different posts than I do.

If prayer doesn't work, you are not sincere enough.

If telekinesis doesn't work, you are not concentrating hard enough.

If telepathy doesn't work, it is only because of one's skepticism... and so on.

These "escape clauses" are prevalent and one of the "believers" main rationalisms.


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Swami]
    #803905 - 08/08/02 06:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

You may scoff but I have taken the seminar and it worked for me.

I went to Vegas and won $50,000! It only cost me $60,000 to win it!

You can't beat them odds!


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleXlea321
Stranger
Registered: 02/26/01
Posts: 9,134
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Swami]
    #803915 - 08/08/02 07:00 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

What about if you fail exams? Isn't this because you wern't trying hard enough?

What about if you can't play guitar like Jimi Hendrix after playing for 2 weeks? Is this because you havn't studied enough?

It's just a simple fact of life in most areas. I wouldn't call it a get-out clause.


--------------------
Don't worry, B. Caapi


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Xlea321]
    #803926 - 08/08/02 07:10 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Physical and mental skills, such as you list, can definitely be improved through diligence and practice. Metaphysical skills, which may or may not exist, are not linearly demonstrable.


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleDraig
Stranger
Registered: 07/13/02
Posts: 41
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality *DELETED* [Re: Swami]
    #803962 - 08/08/02 07:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Post deleted by Draig


--------------------
_________________________
My only experience with the cultivation of mushrooms is with edibles like shittake, portobellos and oysters.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblebuttonion
Calmly Watching

Registered: 04/04/02
Posts: 303
Loc: Kansas
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Draig]
    #803973 - 08/08/02 07:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I also think it is sad.

There are people in our society that don't have the time, resources, or cognitive capactiy to critically think about something like this. They see a promise for success made by a supposed credible authority, and jump at it. Telephone psychics, people talking to the dead...

EERRGGGHH!

... I guess just a symptom of a deeper problem with our society.





--------------------
Concepts which have been proved to be useful in ordering things easily acquire such an authority over us that we forget their human origins and accept them as invariable.- Albert Einstein


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 7,276
Loc: Erra - 20 Tauri - M45 Sta...
Last seen: 16 days, 5 hours
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Swami]
    #803975 - 08/08/02 08:00 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Metaphysical skills, which may or may not exist, are not linearly demonstrable.

Why the "ad ignorantiam" Swami ?

MAIA


--------------------
Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala



Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: MAIA]
    #804088 - 08/08/02 09:11 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Very perceptive.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: MAIA]
    #804097 - 08/08/02 09:17 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Because without that subclause, this thread would have immediately shifted topic. Don't worry, I am not mellowing.


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleSwami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: ]
    #804106 - 08/08/02 09:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I knew a guy in Las Vegas that made a living teaching craps. His lessons were "free". All he wanted was 10% of your winnings. Some people will swallow almost anything (like Bush's propaganda!).


--------------------



The proof is in the pudding.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Swami]
    #804248 - 08/08/02 10:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Side note: Why does everybody bring up Bush all the time?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblebuttonion
Calmly Watching

Registered: 04/04/02
Posts: 303
Loc: Kansas
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: buttonion]
    #804278 - 08/08/02 11:00 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Having expressed my sympathy for those who cannot critically think well, I feel obligated to share a site that I have found on the logical fallacies. I don't doubt that someone has already posted this. Everyone read up!

http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/welcome.htm


--------------------
Concepts which have been proved to be useful in ordering things easily acquire such an authority over us that we forget their human origins and accept them as invariable.- Albert Einstein


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: buttonion]
    #804325 - 08/08/02 11:16 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Nice work Buttonion. Now you'll have everybody reading logic and ripping my arguments to shreds. Way to go.

I was enjoying knowing all the logical fallacies all by myself. Then you had to go and ruin it!


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleXlea321
Stranger
Registered: 02/26/01
Posts: 9,134
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Swami]
    #804391 - 08/08/02 11:53 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Physical and mental skills, such as you list, can definitely be improved through diligence and practice. Metaphysical skills, which may or may not exist, are not linearly demonstrable

Prayer is purely a mental skill? Is writing purely a mental skill? Making music? All these things often cross into the "metaphysical". There's that divine metaphysical spark beyond the skills you can learn. Are you really saying people can "learn" how to create like William Blake or "learn" how to write songs like Bob Dylan? Or play guitar like Jimi Hendrix? Jimi was 24 when he made "Are you experienced". Can you really "learn" how to create like that by the age of 24? I don't think so.


--------------------
Don't worry, B. Caapi


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblebuttonion
Calmly Watching

Registered: 04/04/02
Posts: 303
Loc: Kansas
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: ]
    #804402 - 08/08/02 11:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

AWWWWWWWW SHIT! You mean?. crap? those idiots that don?t think like I do can see that too?!


--------------------
Concepts which have been proved to be useful in ordering things easily acquire such an authority over us that we forget their human origins and accept them as invariable.- Albert Einstein


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: Xlea321]
    #805288 - 08/08/02 07:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

You have a very good point, Alex.

But you have also pissed Swami off and now I have no one to play with.

I hate you for that.

Cheers,


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 7,276
Loc: Erra - 20 Tauri - M45 Sta...
Last seen: 16 days, 5 hours
Re: Slot Machines & Spirituality [Re: buttonion]
    #805942 - 08/09/02 12:22 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Fallacies, i like this one.

MAIA


--------------------
Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala



Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Amazon Shop: Jimi Hendrix

General Interest >> Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Sports & Spirituality
( 1 2 all )
Swami 2,584 32 08/21/03 03:44 PM
by Malachi
* Science & thoughts StrangeDays 1,831 19 07/28/04 10:52 AM
by IamHungry
* The Spiritual Path *revisited*
( 1 2 all )
gettinjiggywithit 2,106 29 09/15/04 08:05 PM
by gettinjiggywithit
* books written by S&P members...who's would you read?
( 1 2 3 4 all )
kaiowas 3,984 65 06/19/04 11:20 PM
by Strumpling
* Medical Marijuana Vending Machines in LA........ PhanTomCat 991 14 02/02/08 04:14 PM
by TODAY
* Mayan Spirituality in the Modern World ShroomDoom 397 0 05/12/08 12:14 PM
by ShroomDoom
* Is Obscurity the Key to Spirituality?
( 1 2 all )
Sclorch 2,214 24 08/23/04 01:37 AM
by gettinjiggywithit
* Are humans biological machines?
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Viaggio 4,386 62 04/08/04 08:38 AM
by fireworks_god

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, CosmicJoke, Jokeshopbeard, DividedQuantum
2,644 topic views. 4 members, 6 guests and 10 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
MushroomCube.com
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2017 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.023 seconds spending 0.001 seconds on 18 queries.