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The post discusses the author's perspective on human nature, the concepts of good and evil, and the challenges of coexistence among individuals with different understandings and experiences. The author argues that humans are inherently flawed and that the idea of good and evil is a human construct, not a natural manifestation. The author also addresses the fear of discussing personal beliefs and the importance of understanding in achieving harmony among people.
MushroomTrip said:
I already explained everything there was to explain, this will be a short reply because I am already losing interest in this subject.
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I didn't say all humans are cowards?
Saying "humans are cowards" without specifying the quantity points out to the general.
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The manner in which we each obtain love is indefatigably irrelevant to the fact that we need it. I wasn't intending to go into detail.
And I was trying to explain you that since our methods differ we have a conflict.
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What does the mind have to do with dicatorship? Regardless of what kind of mind you have, if you live in a dictatorship, you live in a dictatorship. A sin is a sin is a sin.......
A sin? 
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On the fear subject, you fail to understand what I'm asking you. You say the opposite of fear is "Love, peace of mind, understanding (as in making use of reason and awareness).". Now, since they are opposites, they lie on opposite sides of a given spectrum. Given the spectrum of Good and Evil, which one would you place where?
Since I do mot sustain the idea of good and evil, I can't place either of them in any of those categories.
All of them are human and natural manifestation.
Lack of understanding (fear) is not evil, and in some cases it is the process of learning itself. In oder to learn there has to be something that is not understood. How can this be "evil"?
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Strictly good and strictly bad don't exist? Ever heard of God and Satan?
Ahhh and do those dudes exist? 
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No, I think it's pretty clear to me what your ego does and does not understand.
Ok then.
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What does that have to do with an actual state of humanhood. Whatever implied, I never used the words actual state.
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im·ply /ɪmˈplaɪ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-plahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -plied, -ply·ing.
1. to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated: His words implied a lack of faith.
2. (of words) to signify or mean.
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4. Obsolete. to enfold.
Implying it is saying it with other words.
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But if everyone, or almost everyone, was fully human, or almost fully human, our perception on reality would be congruent, or almost congruent. As a result, we would all get along.
Yes, I just told you that if we were all aware and understanding and all the like we would probably get along.
But we don't due to that I earlier said:
"We are living and experience this life, each of us in different ways and sometimes we learn from the mistakes that we do, other times we don't. This can turn us into more sentient and conscious beings, or in even more restrictive beings.
So basically you're asking why can't everybody just get along. Well, because our perception upon reality differs, we all have our own rhythm of understanding and we're all in different phases of awareness. Life is just following its natural course, and we're doing the same thing."
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Would you publicly sing your favorite song, in front of a crowd of people?
This has nothing to do with the subject that's being discussed.
We're discussing ideas here, but yes, for your own curiosity I will answer this one time: yes I would.
Whether or not you retain your interest in this subject makes no difference to me in the world. I do, however, wish to respond for my own personal reasons, may I be allowed as much?
This is a Philosophy forum. To expect one to spell out every single detail of all their personal ideas is a little too much. Part of philosophy, in fact, a great deal of it involves asking questions, and making assertions that have symbolic meaning. When I say "humans are cowards", it's kind of a way for me of saying "I think, or I believe humans are cowards". I didn't intend to specify the quantity, and I would not defend or clarify my assertions at the mercy of others. If one does not understand, and/or do not wish to understand, that is merely one's loss, of whatever one may wish to call it.
Since when is this a conflict? What do you mean our manners differ, from what/whom? And when were we even talking about each other's manners of obtaining love?
A sin is a sin is a sin, a lie is a lie is a lie, a tomato is a tomato is a tomato. Why are you belittling me? Those just happen to be the choice of words I used to express a point.
"Since I do mot sustain the idea of good and evil, I can't place either of them in any of those categories.
All of them are human and natural manifestation.
Lack of understanding (fear) is not evil, and in some cases it is the process of learning itself. In oder to learn there has to be something that is not understood. How can this be "evil"?"
Good and Evil used as equivalents to negative and positive. Now place them.
Again, God and Satan used in a philosophical sense.
Did I even say I implied it? Now I'm going to make this clear; I didn't imply it, I didn't say it.
Why do you have to argue? Everything I say, you assume that I am attacking you or belittling you in some sort of way. I assure you, I am not. This thread was in no way, shape, or form, of any kind, supposed to be, or intended as a debate or an argument.
How do you know it has nothing to do with what's being discussed? You don't know why I asked that question, or what the follow-up might've been. We're discussing whatever is relevant to the original post, which was made by myself. Therefore, it is not up to you to decide what is relevant and what isn't, so long that it falls in the realm of Philosophy & Spirituality, or is explaining such assertions in that realm. Now that you've answered, let me ask you another question, whether or not you wish to answer though is up to you.
Would you walk EXTREMELY slowly in public?
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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan   fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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