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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: fivepointer]
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As God revealed to me at a spirit conference last weekend. There are people who are filled with the holy spirit that are misled by the devil. Some people have the Holy Spirit and the devil within them. That is why St. Paul told us to put on the "Armour of God" So that we have protection from the evil one.

The people God showed me did not have protection from the evil one cause they did not seek it. You also need to be aware of the evil one and discern where this is leading before you follow that path.

God has shown me a lot of things of how cleverly Satan can deceive us.

But Satan only has power over us if we let him. People misled by Satan allow some kind of opening for him to work, and they have to agree with what he says in order for him to influence him. This is why God has instructed me to life much more Dependant on him than what he asks of others.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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The truly converted can not have both the Holy Spirit and the devil within them. That is impossible. The saved are sealed with the Holy Spirit and translated out of the dark kingdom entirely.

You still haven't answered whether you believe in transubstantiation, do tell.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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I hear of testimonies of the dead being raised, the crippled, the blind, and all sorts of ailments healed by the power of God through the faithful. Jesus is alive in spirit among us. Look for him, & you will see him.



You're right, you only hear of those things happening.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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Demotriton said:
This is not me that speaks but the Holy Spirit speaking through me.


http://www.christian-faith.com/testimonies/paranoid.htm

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: fivepointer]
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fivepointer said:
The truly converted can not have both the Holy Spirit and the devil within them. That is impossible. The saved are sealed with the Holy Spirit and translated out of the dark kingdom entirely.
You still haven't answered whether you believe in transubstantiation, do tell.


How is it you come to this conclusion?
I only know what God showed me. I felt the Holy spirit very powerfully, and sensed the presence of Satan coming from the same man.

Also a year ago AFTER I was baptized in the Holy Spirit thinking I was free from evil forever, A very Holy Priest cast out an evil spirit from me at a Healing Mass. I actually FELT the thing crawl out of me. So I KNOW from personal experience that you can have more than one spirit in you just so long as YOU are in agreement with both parties. Since then I have repented and am now clean.

Yes I do believe the bread & wine become the Body of Christ at Mass, but you receive no benefit if you do not truly believe this when eating it. I have felt the presence of Jesus in the Eucharist at certain times. So I know from personal experience.

I am only trying to help you see the truth. Where does all this anger and resentment come from?

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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I am only trying to help you see the truth. Where does all this anger and resentment come from?


Perhaps the contemptible arrogance of statements such as this.


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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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You ran into another fundamentalist on the Shroomery. Trust me, it's a coincidence.


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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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The problem with your theology is it is not based on scripture but based on feelings and experience. This is how you arrive at perverse doctrines. You claim you were baptized in the Holy Spirit, yet I see you oppose the gospel, so you may of had a spirit but it was not the Holy Spirit. You call the mass a "Healing Mass". How could a true Christian call the blasphemous absurdity of a "Mass" healing? No Christian would ever say this. Show me from scripture how bread and wine become the Body of Christ, you can't. You claim the Bible is the Word of God, yet oppose it at every turn.

You are a wolf who uses all the familiar words associated with the gospel, yet twists the meanings and context to create another gospel, this is what every false teacher does.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: fivepointer]
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Would you talk to your own grandma like that if she interpretted the Bible differently


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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Basilides]
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Yes.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: fivepointer]
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What if she talked to you in the same tone and manner?

What if she stopped sending you 5 dollar checks on your birthday

What if Jesus had a personal rule that he always sides with grandma.


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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: fivepointer]
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fivepointer said:
The problem with your theology is it is not based on scripture but based on feelings and experience. This is how you arrive at perverse doctrines. You claim you were baptized in the Holy Spirit, yet I see you oppose the gospel, so you may of had a spirit but it was not the Holy Spirit. You call the mass a "Healing Mass". How could a true Christian call the blasphemous absurdity of a "Mass" healing? No Christian would ever say this. Show me from scripture how bread and wine become the Body of Christ, you can't. You claim the Bible is the Word of God, yet oppose it at every turn.

You are a wolf who uses all the familiar words associated with the gospel, yet twists the meanings and context to create another gospel, this is what every false teacher does.


You misunderstood me, in the Catholic church there is something called the Charismatic Renewal which is made up of Catholics baptized in the Holy Spirit. They have what is called Healing Masses, they are different from regular masses as there is prayer for healing during & after the mass.

I have worshiped and praised God in many different ways, Mass is just one of them. How is it you come to the conclusion the Mass is absurd?

Here in scripture is one of the places it explains the bread & wine becoming the Body & Blood of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 26:26-28
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Matthew 7:1-2
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: fivepointer]
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How do you know this is from God and not some chemical disturbance in your brain?

This is a question you should ask yourself dood. :rofl2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Icelander]
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FAITH

Ephesians 2:8

By this undeserved kindness indeed you have been saved through faith and this is not owing to you it is a gift from God.

Without faith we CANNOT be saved. I trust God's explanation more than the world's explanation.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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Demotriton said:
FAITH

Ephesians 2:8

By this undeserved kindness indeed you have been saved through faith and this is not owing to you it is a gift from God.

Without faith we CANNOT be saved. I trust God's explanation more than the world's explanation.


And for reasons only explicable by you your faith is more valid than all of the world's other religions?

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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Jesus spoke in parables and pictures. Physical bread and physical wine are not being spoken of. These are pictures of pointing to spiritual truths. In John 6 Jesus says you must eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Man. The Jews strove with Him because they only understood this physically and not spiritually. It is amazing how even with that example in scripture people still think in physical terms when it comes to physical bread and wine.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: fivepointer]
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"Please my children stop agruing and repent of your sins. Can you not see that my son loves you and is trying to help you? Why is it that you doubt my word?"

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: fivepointer]
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Who woulda thought someone would read the Bible literally


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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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"I have worshiped and praised God in many different ways, Mass is just one of them. How is it you come to the conclusion the Mass is absurd? "

You don't know why it is absurd and blasphemous? See the link for a detailed explanation:

http://www.godsonlygospel.com/Mass2.htm

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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Demotriton said:
"Please my children stop agruing and repent of your sins. Can you not see that my son loves you and is trying to help you? Why is it that you doubt my word?"


Who are you quoting?

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