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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Mr_Prickles]
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Mr_Prickles said:
I certainly could, and you could do the same.  Why are you so hateful towards Christian ideas?  Is it just Christianity, or is it all religion you despise?  I don't think any organized religion has all their ideas completely in line, but why knock them for trying?


Why do you assume that he is hateful towards Christian ideas? Where did he "knock" them? I think you are overreacting to your own preconceived notion of what might be occuring. I see no evidence of hate or of "knocking". :wtf:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
Also, what does it mean to "hand your life over to Christ", exactly?


It means, strap on that bomb, we gotta fight those muslim commie bastards!


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The Mad Shroomer said:
People are always promising the apocalypse. They never deliver. :frown:

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Wasteland]
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Quote:
God wants


I have made it a rule in my life to stop giving anyone my attention after this is presented. Many of you should as well.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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What if I don't want to go to heaven? What if I prefer non-consciousness?

And what if I don't want "God?" Will He be cool with that?

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: SneezingPenis]
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psilocyberin said:
Quote:
God wants


I have made it a rule in my life to stop giving anyone my attention after this is presented. Many of you should as well.


I have to agree with this. Humans who claim to know what "God's" Will is for mankind should really think twice. You're not privy to divine knowledge-- no one knows what "God" wants for us (if indeed there is a "God").

Sure, it is possible that one may attain sublime knowledge via special revelation, yet I find it highly unlikely.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: fireworks_god]
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Why do you assume that he is hateful towards Christian ideas? Where did he "knock" them? I think you are overreacting to your own preconceived notion of what might be occuring. I see no evidence of hate or of "knocking". :wtf:


I probably was overreacting, it wasn't really hateful but his posts seemed to be oozing sarcasm, especially since that's the general reaction given by a lot of people in today's society. Sarcasm can't really be detected over the internet, though, so I was basically shooting blind. I'm tired, I'll come back to this thread tomorrow when I'm not as irritable.  :undecided:


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Soon you will see. All of your fears will pass away.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Mr_Prickles]
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Demotriton, I'm interested to hear your response to the discussion in this thread so far, from what I can tell all you've done is shamelessly plug God without any kind of reasoning. Any thoughts?


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Soon you will see. All of your fears will pass away.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Mr_Prickles]
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You got to remember man. If you are going to post here, prepare for your views to be picked apart by little woodpeckers who wont stop till the tree falls down. :wink:


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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Sinbad]
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Sinbad said:
You got to remember man. If you are going to post here, prepare for your views to be picked apart by little woodpeckers who wont stop till the tree falls down. :wink:


I'm used to it. :tongue: I'd actually prefer for my views to be picked apart, criticism helps shape them, and I wouldn't want anyone to accept my views without examining them critically first.


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Soon you will see. All of your fears will pass away.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Mr_Prickles]
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Mr_Prickles said:
Sinbad said:
You got to remember man. If you are going to post here, prepare for your views to be picked apart by little woodpeckers who wont stop till the tree falls down. :wink:


I'm used to it. :tongue: I'd actually prefer for my views to be picked apart, criticism helps shape them, and I wouldn't want anyone to accept my views without examining them critically first.


That a very good attitude to have. The not accepting without examination is the same as what Buddha said. :thumbup:


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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: SneezingPenis]
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psilocyberin said:
Quote:
God wants


I have made it a rule in my life to stop giving anyone my attention after this is presented. Many of you should as well.

:grin::thumbup:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Mr_Prickles]
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Mr_Prickles said:
Demotriton, I'm interested to hear your response to the discussion in this thread so far, from what I can tell all you've done is shamelessly plug God without any kind of reasoning. Any thoughts?


Unfortunately this is often the case with this kind of thing. It's called hit and run. This individual may think he's doing Gods work by trying to save our souls in this fasion and maybe he would have stuck around if he had gotten some support rather than questions. I doubt very much he can effectively debate any of this though.

If it seems that I am a little sarcastic at times it's just because I am.:crazy2::grin: After you get used to me hopefully you can just laugh it off. God left me in an imperfect state.

(Kentucky) :rofl2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Quote:
Unfortunately this is often the case with this kind of thing. It's called hit and run. This individual may think he's doing Gods work by trying to save our souls in this fasion and maybe he would have stuck around if he had gotten some support rather than questions. I doubt very much he can effectively debate any of this though.

If it seems that I am a little sarcastic at times it's just because I am.:crazy2::grin: After you get used to me hopefully you can just laugh it off. God left me in an imperfect state.

(Kentucky) :rofl2:


Yeah it's cool, no hard feelings or anything. :thumbup:  I grew up in church, and the prevalence of these "hit and run" tactics was one of my primary reason for abandoning the church in its current state.  People need to realize that this type of "ministry" isn't very effective among people who can think for themselves, particularly in modern society where there are plenty of other options to consider.


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Soon you will see. All of your fears will pass away.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Mr_Prickles]
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Sorry I didn't get a chance to post on here till now. Before I answer I have just ONE question to ask everyone that posted. What is God's purpose for creating us.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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Demotriton said:
Sorry I didn't get a chance to post on here till now. Before I answer I have just ONE question to ask everyone that posted. What is God's purpose for creating us.

He needed something to do to Pass the time?  :shrug:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Lion]
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Then once you find out what the best way to pass the time is, your a step closer to finding God.

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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:thumbup: something like that!


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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Demotriton said:
Sorry I didn't get a chance to post on here till now. Before I answer I have just ONE question to ask everyone that posted. What is God's purpose for creating us.


Please, you haven't even defined your terms. I'm not certain how anyone could answer that question in a reasonable manner as it is simply speculation on some abstract concept that means something different for everyone and is not found apparent in reality itself.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Demotriton]
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Demotriton said:
Sorry I didn't get a chance to post on here till now. Before I answer I have just ONE question to ask everyone that posted. What is God's purpose for creating us.


The same purpose "God" created a bug. Not that I believe your god created anything.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Want to go to heaven? God can Help [Re: Icelander]
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Or the same purpose for which God created the tapeworm.

I do not understand where this "beauty" and "harmony" are supposed to be found. Throughout the animal kingdom, animals ruthlessly prey upon each other. Most of them are either cruelly killed by other animals or slowly die of hunger. For my part, I am unable to see any great beauty or harmony in the tapeworm. Let it not be said that this creature is sent as a punishment for our sins, for it is more prevalent among animals than among humans. -- Bertrand Russel


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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