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auweia
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: tahoe]
#6350942 - 12/09/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Naw, Peter had the right spot. i went out there the day after that and they were indeed all picked. But no matter, that spot no longer exists now anyway. 3 transplants and at least 10 cardboards all over the bay last year
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: WaylitJim]
#6351053 - 12/09/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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CureCat said: It is possible, though, unlikely.
More probable is that Ps. subaeruginascens is the closest known species to match the unknown Bay Area Psilocybes microscopically.
I originally thought I found annulated azurescens, but since they're not azures, they very well may be a new species. Although it's always possible subaeruginascens spores traveled to CA, we have many visitors from overseas.
Yes, it IS possible, but still... I'd say it is unlikely, as we certainly get more visitors from georgia and texas, yet the Bay Area isn't popping up with weilii and cubensis.
I mean, it is possible that a visitor from Asia brought over some subaeruginascen spores on their clothes, and the spores just happened to land on some woodchips, and were able to germinate.... But then again, I think it is more likely that it is a relative yet distinct species.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: CureCat]
#6351071 - 12/09/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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the wind blows from the west, georgias and texas air would never make it here
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: tahoe]
#6351103 - 12/09/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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tahoe said: the wind blows from the west, georgias and texas air would never make it here
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CureCat said: we certainly get more visitors from georgia and texas, yet the Bay Area isn't popping up with weilii and cubensis.
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notapillow
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: CureCat]
#6351148 - 12/09/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think its is completly possible. winds are chotic as is spore dispersal. who knows how it may have got here. maybe it was trasplated to a near by area or a maybe 100 miles away.
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auweia
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: CureCat]
#6351153 - 12/09/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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CureCat said: I mean, it is possible that a visitor from Asia brought over some subaeruginascen spores on their clothes, and the spores just happened to land on some woodchips, and were able to germinate.... But then again, I think it is more likely that it is a relative yet distinct species.
I saw a video of Stamets describing how that kind of spore dispersal works. He said it was an ingenious way to make people disperse spores for them, like airports, where people have spores on their clothes and they spread it all over.
Then it occurred to me that I take BART all over the place, and often have my picks...uh....not sealed very tight. and crowded BART trains, during rush hour, oh my. Fluff them up a couple of times and spores go to nearly all points in the Bay Area 
sometimes I just feel contaminated...hehe
Edited by auweia (12/09/06 02:26 PM)
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
#6351293 - 12/09/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, the Psychoactivity conference in Amsterdam, that was a good video.
Also, I was explaining to the president of MSSF and Earth at Erowid last weekend at the Fungus Fair, that my friend claims to have found Ps. cubensis growing from dung in a cow field in CALIFORNIA. I told them I was skeptical, but my friend swears by it. The president and Earth seemed to mirror my disbelief, so I continued "well, they are certainly not native, however, they could have been introduced. People do outdoor patches, or they often dump their spent cakes into their yard, and sometimes fruits grow fom them- so it is possible that spores could have found their way to the cow pasture." Then David, the president, interjected with his doubts, saying how unlikely it would be, but I continued, "And this wasn't just any cow pasture- this one is ON a college campus." Then David said "Ooh. That changes everything." 
I am still awaiting photos of these mushrooms.... I am excited by the possibility!
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: CureCat]
#6351327 - 12/09/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Start yourself a nice outdoor patch near or within a cow pasture and see if they continue to fruit annually or spread at all
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notapillow
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: CureCat]
#6351333 - 12/09/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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cure cat was this collage by chance ucsc? cus i have heard the same rumurs from people. people who i do not know to well and have no idea how credible they are. or if they "just ate teh shroomiez cus they grow in the cow shit brah"
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auweia
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: notapillow]
#6351355 - 12/09/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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that is so weird...I heard the same thing about UCSC, a few years ago before I ever got here...Cubenses in Santa Cruz?..no way...way....no way
yeah, there's been rumours for awhile about that. I never believed it, but shocking things have happened around here before
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notapillow
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
#6351545 - 12/09/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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ya i know. a freind of mine who goes there --->  sayed that some kids from portland sayed they go picking in the cow feilds and find shrooms "under the cow pies"
i dunno my freind sayed these kids seeemed like they knew there mushrooms but the simple fact is neither i nor he saw these aleged santa crux cubes. thats not to say its not true. i just would love to see it
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: notapillow]
#6351612 - 12/09/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ahahaha!! That is totally where my friend goes to school. Hmmm, I have heard from a seperate source, that mushrooms grow under the pies in orange county, but again, I am more than a little hesitant.
Though I take what my friend told me with a grain of salt, I have been hunting with this fellow, and he is not totally uninformed about mushrooms. He has successfully picked subbs before.
Hmm, if there are so many rumours about cubes at santa cruz, it would seem more plausible... My friend said that he was not the only one out in the field picking, that there were a dozen other students out there too. I will have to investigate further.
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notapillow
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: CureCat]
#6351633 - 12/09/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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ya i was telling them. uh your a long way from the gulf coast to be finding anything in doo doo. but hey weirder shit has happened. im gonna go down there in about a moth or so and i think i will have to investigate this further myself
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: notapillow]
#6351648 - 12/09/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think we should hear from KidBotany on this!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4906883#Post4906883
Use the search, and type in "Santa cruz cubes" and "santa cruz cubensis", quite a few references to Ps. cubensis in SC come up....
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: CureCat]
#6351803 - 12/09/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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when people start telling me about 'shr0omz that grow under the cow pies' i generaly stop talking to them, though often continue listening to see how inept they might be. it's almost always a dead giveaway that they've never been cubensis hunting [or often any mushroom hunting], don't know what species they are even talking about, etc.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: CureCat]
#6351807 - 12/09/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've lived in Santa Cruz for 7 years... and pretty much hunted the entire time. I didn't specifically look for actives year round. I just found tons of subbalteatus, and was happy with that.
Santa Cruz is generally cold year round, except for a few months out of the year. The ocean keeps it damn cold in general. I couldn't imagine Ps. cubensis growing here.. .ever. Im sure its possible, but, highly unlikely.
I PM'ed him about this a while, I cant rmember what he said, until I see them with my own eyes, Im usually skeptical.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: canid]
#6351879 - 12/09/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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concretefeet said: when people start telling me about 'shr0omz that grow under the cow pies' i generaly stop talking to them, though often continue listening to see how inept they might be. it's almost always a dead giveaway that they've never been cubensis hunting [or often any mushroom hunting], don't know what species they are even talking about, etc.
Yup.... a LOT of people are like that. It makes me angry that they won't listen to reason... very frustrating.
But then I remember natural selection, and calm down a little.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: canid]
#6352193 - 12/09/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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AS Concretefeet said:
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when people start telling me about 'shr0omz that grow under the cow pies' i generaly stop talking to them, though often continue listening to see how inept they might be. it's almost always a dead giveaway that they've never been cubensis hunting [or often any mushroom hunting], don't know what species they are even talking about, etc.
There are nop cubes in Santa cruz, unless someone put there cakes outdoors inthe ground.
People haave said this about Alaska and about kansas and other areas. They do not grow.
However, on another note, here are three cow-pies of manure form Kualoa Ranch in hawaii with Copeland species gerowing under the cow-pies which I turned over.



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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: mjshroomer]
#6352376 - 12/09/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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i found cubes in el dorado county grwing under my tomatos one year. But i just figured it was from all the spent cakes that i tilled into the soil
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: tahoe]
#6352471 - 12/09/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow those are neat pics Mj.THe Pics that Quankus has on his post of this mysttery shroom looks like the one I found in Eureka.Dark Brown Gills. like taht
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