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Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa
    #6320418 - 11/30/06 02:38 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Heres pics from two different patches a couple blocks apart.

I found these smaller ones in front of the place i work last week.











These found Monday are from a patch aweia told me about last season.











Its VERY out in the open. Right by an onramp somewhere. I saw them and started to pick fast so as not to be there long. I had filled one bag and was picking to fill another when someone getting on the freeway yelled out of his car, "THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE FUCKING NOT!!!!!!"  LOLOLOL

I smiled and thought to myself, "Oh yes they are."

I picked about an ounce dry give or take a couple grams i havent weighed them yet. I did notice a few worms, but they were in ok condition.

So far ive only found Friscosas this year. Seems to be more prevelant in my area than Cyanescens.

anyway happy huntin guys  :grin: :thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: sui]
    #6320792 - 11/30/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

isn't that amazing?...Lots of people are convinced those aren't the right ones, but we know better :smile:

I'm suprised a little that one came up already, since many simlar areas out in the open like that haven't started yet..I'd say that's a bit isolated right now. I might make it up there in a couple weeks after some more rain.

try making some cardboard out of the leftover mycelium..and btw, last year when I picked i also pulled up some mycelium just like in these photos, and they grew back just fine. Nice agressive strain here

here's the same place from last year. Note the date, jan 16



As far as I can tell, this season isn't really that much earlier than last year


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: angryshroom]
    #6320949 - 11/30/06 10:02 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Here's something I've never seen done before. This cardboard is inoculated woodchips from both psilocybe cyanescens and these new friscosas..half and half mixed togther

it's still a little early, but as you can see, they are starting to grow into one another and become one organism



whether or not this becomes a shroomzilla that rampages through the bay area remains to be seen  :smile:


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6321042 - 11/30/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Hi Auweia,

I cropped your foto from Jan 2006 to show you a comparison image.

Here is your image and then here is one of mine from Seattle. My mushrooms, which very much macroscopically are very alike yours, were identified for me under the microscope by Dr. Gaston Guzman as Psilocybe cyanescens.

However, I believe most of the alledged friscosa's are P. cyanofibrilosa.

So compare my images from Seattle with yours from San Fran.

john



my image and more of same patch







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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6321123 - 11/30/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)


shity i know but i thought i would contribute.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6321505 - 11/30/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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auweia said:
Here's something I've never seen done before. This cardboard is inoculated woodchips from both psilocybe cyanescens and these new friscosas..half and half mixed togther

it's still a little early, but as you can see, they are starting to grow into one another and become one organism



whether or not this becomes a shroomzilla that rampages through the bay area remains to be seen  :smile:




And this phenomenon introduces a new issue:
Only same species can "mate", which would suggest that,
1. you misidentified one of the species, or,
2. they are the same species, but perhaps one is a sub-species, or,
3. one of the species is over taking the other.

Very curious...


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #6335635 - 12/05/06 08:19 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

well, I was going to correct myself and say I didn't care what you think, but you still seem unsure enough, so I'll try to put it in a way you can understand. Do you know what this is? 



I've never seen that here. I can tell very easy that I've never seen that here. It's so obvious it whaps me upside the head with a frying pan. If you can't see the difference between this photo and what we've been seeing here and posting photos of, then I recoomend you don't come here and pick cause you'll be next in line for the Darwin awards. I've seen galerinas here that look closer to the above photos than the psilocybes we've been picking here.

You know where I got this, right?  >  http://www.fungi.com/info/gallery/gallery5.html

Stamets isn't the authority on psilocybes, he just happened to name this one, along with Guzman. Both of them are saying what we find here isn't this.

If I ever see this here I'll be gald to take a photo, but I've never seen it, and I don't think anybody else has either

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bluemeanie said:
Hang on... Im confused, didnt you just say in a previous post that you didnt care, than spent that long writing a response afterwards... :wink:
Ill try and put it in ways that you understand, since this you have decided is the cornerstone of science.
I dont think its necessarily a new species. It could be, but just because it looks like it doesnt automatically mean that it is. I made this point at the start, and the basic response was something along the lines of 'well Peter and Stamets think that it is.'
I mean your welcome to accept that but I was more curious...
All I was asking for was evidence of the fact that this is a new species. And having read Peter's post Im still not convinced.
No need to take it personal...


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6336188 - 12/05/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

btw,

I have been to California and even lived there for some time, and I was also there in the 1960s as well as 1994, 1997, 2001, 2003 and 2004. ANd several times inbetween all of those years dating from 1968 through 2004.

I have picked both P. cyanescens while there and seen specimens growing in situ of P. cyanofibrilosa in San Francisco (Golden Gate park and elsewhere in Marin County.

I want to post another picture of Paul Stamets here which I have permission to use and is in my book, "MMOTPNW.".

First Paul's Picture and then some from Cardboard in northwestern Washington near Bellingham, DH, @cro and Psillygirl in Seattle area and others, including Michael Beaug (Olympia and Tumwater and from Jeremy Bigwood in Oregon, this mushroom as do all Psilocybe species have certain characteristics of the generra which can be featured in many Psilocybe species.

And many belong to different stirps.

Currently, the two most important mycologists involved in Psilocybes are Prof Nooderloos and Gaston Guzman and his daughter Laura, and several others in Xalapa, Mexico. In fact, all Psilocybes which are new generally go to Guzman who is currently revising his 1983, "The Genus Psilocybe."

So Here I am presenting a short pictorial of some of the many variations in the growth and development of Psilocybe cyanofibrilosa.

The image of Pauls first picture shown above is not an image that one might say is representative of the species. I repeat that image here next to the other image in his book. Those shrooms he shows attain only a heigth of 3 inches.

And here are two images by Paul Stamets of P. cyanofibrilosa from his book, "pmotw."

Auweia showed you this image posted above as not like others he sees in San Francisco. I post my copy here of that same image posted above by Auweia.


But Auweia did not show you the 2nd image from Paul Stamet's book which looks nothing like the posted image by Stamets as posted by Auweia above.

But this image is also in Paul's book,



Now this next image of P. cyanofibrilosa is by Paul Stamets and appears in David Arora's book, "Mushrooms Demystified."
Notice the larger size of them and the convexed shape of some of the caps. Only a few smaller ones in this image resemble some of Paul's images posted directly above this one, but others here look nothing like Paul's two images in his book. But they are P. cyanofibrilosa


It was accidently mis-identified in David's book as Psilocybe cyanescens by David Arora. Both Paul and David are aware of the error in the identifucation of this species under the image in his book where it was listed as Psilocybe cyanescens. OF course, those who know P. cyanescens known that this image is not P. cyanescens. I was the first to inform both Paul and David while attending an annual Breittenbuish Mushroom Conference years ago. Those annual symposiums on shrooms are still a yearly event at Breittenbush Hot Springs Retreat.

The mistake is probably from the person who edited David's book, or maybe David at the time had never seen an image of P. cyanescens when the book was printed. Neither of them have tried to change or correct the text to that error, yet both have known of it since publication years ago.

Arora was also one person along with Gary Menser who claimed tha the gyumnopilus shrooms were active onthe east coast and void of chemical content in specimens formthe west coast (That shows misidentification of Gym Species).

These two P. cyanofibrilosas are by Cardboard near Bellingham somewhere.


by Jeremy Bigwood


by @cro in Seattle


by Psillygirl:


By DH:


By HongoMeester:


by J. Webb in San Francisco


by Psillygirl


by @cro






This next image was taken by Jochen Gartz while he and I were collecting specimens of P. stuntzii in 1991 in Eugene, Oregon at a local shopping mall along the Willamette River. He mailed these back to Germany from Salem, Oregon and later identified them also as Psilocybe cyanofibrilosa. Notice some have semi-conical caps. And they blued extemely instense after about five minutes.



And here are some images taken by me when shrooming with @cro and Psillygirl and by just @cro and I. These were also identified by Guzman for me as P. cyanofibrilosa









As in P. cyanescens, the stems of P. cyanofibrilosa can be either 1/2 to 2 to 3 inches in height or as much as 4-6 inches or taller.

They can also grow singular and/or cespitose and in clumps and/or clusters.

They can also grow in grassy areas where mulch was originally on the ground and sod was replaced over the mulch or they can appear in grassy areas along mulch beds where the lawn mowers have clipped the edges of the mulched areas alongside the grassy areas.

And, being Psilocybes. they have many similar characteristics of the genera Psilocybe.

But then so do Deconica, Naematoloma, Agrocybe, and even the deadly three Galerina species also mimic macroscopically several species of Psilocybe, by color as well as by shape.

mj


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: mjshroomer]
    #6336815 - 12/05/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

naw, it's no problem about my photo..

that's the one I sent to Stamets the next day..back in 2002, and he emailed back asking me permission to put it in his upcoming book, mycelium running, and I said sure, but he never got back to me and it was never printed, so I dunno. You, or anyone else is free to use it. As far as I know, that's still one of the earliest photos from the Bay Area.

I should also say that this photo also isn't really normal for what we see down here. In fact, that spot is in Golden Gate Park and never came up again after that. I have another one the same year that looks a little more normal, but this here is much more normal >

This is the stuff that's becoming very common here. Big puppies too These here are 3 inches across


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: @cro]
    #6337299 - 12/05/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: Civ]
    #6337883 - 12/05/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Only one of those pics looks like Ps. cyanfriscosa, but the others don't. Why compare with pics from mushrooms 900 miles away? anyone that has held one or seen a frisc in person would know. I find cyan fibs in SONORA (oh yeah mushrooms of the motherload) <-- yeah and they look nothing like ps.cyanfriscosa. They are not even half the size as a frisco.




This one right?



This photo was taken by hongomeester. Ive met him and he lives in the bay. This is an old photo from before all the friscosa stuff happened. They are friscosas.


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: CureCat]
    #6342834 - 12/06/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

well i saw 2 different species at the fair that were macroscopicaly different. One was called ps fib and the other was the supposedly the cyclone/friscosaa species. Now the thing that we are calling friscosas and the thing this guy was calling a fib were the same thing. Now this so called friscosa looked different then what we have been calling friscosas. Last yewar at the fqair i was tolds that this new species had been sent out to guzman and he said it was closer to a cyan then a fib but wasnt either. Now this mushroom that this guy said was a friscosa looked more like auweias richmond find. And acording to the pics of the real fibs up north our real fibs or what ever they are look nothing like them. Last year at the fair 2 people said that they were the first to find the new species by the ocean, one claiming to find it the year before and the other claiming to find it last year. This year at the fair someone else said that they found the first fib 5 years ago. Its just all to confusing and i would like to see some pics of this other species that i saw over this weekend.

I believe peter knows this guy james that showed me both mushrooms but i dont know if he agrees that they are differnt. If he does then the pics of what we all are posting as friscosas are not the friscosa/cyclone but rather the fib. I have a cloned fib or what we have been calling friscosa on agar right now and it isnt showing signs of spiraling. its only about the size of a quarter so i wont know for sure until it gets bigger. here it is


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: tahoe]
    #6343640 - 12/07/06 08:13 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Tahoe, this is who Dr. Gaston Guzman is!

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Dr. Gaston Guzman -- mycologist, taxonomist, explorer, author and anthropologist -- is the world's foremost authority on the genus Psilocybe, having discovered and authored more than half of the known neurotropic species. He also is a leading authority on the indigenous peoples of Mexico, and their divinatory and medicinal uses of the sacred mushrooms.

Dr. Guzman was born in Xalapa, Veracruz, in 1932. His interest in mycology began in 1955 while a graduate student at the National Polytechnic Institute, in Mexico City. Up to that point the Institute's collection of fungi had been poorly maintained and he resolved to begin cataloging an entire new collection of specimens. In the summer of that year, Dr. Guzman conducted his first field work in the forests near Mexico City, where he found myriad species about which little was known. This inspired him to declare mushrooms as the topic of his professional thesis and he vowed to someday write a book on Mexican mushrooms.

In 1957, Dr. Guzman was invited on an expedition -- led by noted mycologist Dr. Rolf Singer -- to study neurotropic mushrooms in the Huautla de Jimenez region. Dr. Guzman was already familiar with the region, having collected there in 1953 (while in the employ of Syntex Laboratories) medicinal plant specimens belonging to the Dioscorea genus. Dr. Guzman had read with enthusiasm R. Gordon Wasson's Life article published in 1957 and he was delighted to have the opportunity to return to the Huautla region to study the hongos mágico. On the last day of the expedition, Dr. Singer and Guzman met Wasson in a small village near Huautla; Wasson was in the region conducting research and it was from this chance meeting that he and Dr. Guzman formed a close friendship that would last nearly thirty years. This meeting also resulted in Dr. Guzman's later friendship with Wasson's colleagues Roger Heim and Richard Evans Schultes.

In 1958, through his Indian contacts, Dr. Guzman learned of the Aztec word teotlaquilnanacatl. This word is used by the Indians of the Sierra de Puebla region to describe the sacred mushrooms; translated it means "the mushrooms that paint" (referring to the mushrooms' visionary properties). This is noteworthy because the Spanish chronicler Bernardino de Sahagun in 1555 stated that the Aztec name for the sacred mushrooms was teonanacatl. However, it seems that the word teonanacatl is no longer used by the Indians [Guzman, letter to author 1999]. Also in 1958, Dr. Guzman published his first paper on a blue-staining Psilocybe species and the first paper on the ecology of neurotropic fungi. This work was followed by other papers in which he revised the known hallucinogenic species of Mexico and described new habitats and species. The professional thesis of Dr. Guzman, presented in 1959, fulfilled the requirements for a degree in biology. The subject of the thesis was a study of the known neurotropic fungi of Mexico, their taxonomy, cultural uses, ecology and distribution. The thesis was reviewed by a professional jury and Dr. Guzman was awarded an honorary distinction. Dr. Guzman dedicated his thesis to his teacher Rolf Singer, as well as to Wasson, Heim and Teofilo Herrera, who all aided him in conducting his research.

In 1979, Dr. Guzman, along with Stephen H. Pollock, described a new entheogenic mushroom found by them in the Naolinco region of the State of Veracruz. This species was named Psilocybe wassoniorum in honor of Wasson and his wife Valentina.

Dr. Guzman's masterpiece, a world monograph titled The Genus Psilocybe: A Systematic Revision of the Known Species Including the History, Distribution and Chemistry of the Hallucinogenic Species, which he began in 1957, was published in 1983 by J. Cramer of Vaduz, Germany. This definitive work was made possible through a grant Dr. Guzman received from The Guggenheim Memorial Foundation of New York, on the recommendation of Richard Evans Schultes.

In 1993, Dr. Guzman, together with mycologists Victor M. Bandala and John W. Allen, described a new neurotropic mushroom, Psilocybe samuiensis, from Koh Samui, Thailand. This is the first blue-staining mushroom reported from Thailand and is the first species of the Section Mexicana to be reported from outside the Americas. Also described by Dr. Guzman were several new bluing species from Australasia: Psilocybe australiana, Psilocybe eucalypta, Psilocybe tasmaniana and Psilocybe aucklandii (the first three in collaboration with the preeminent Scottish mycologist Dr. Roy Watling, the last with Chris King of New Zealand). From South America, Dr. Guzman described more than ten neurotropic species including Psilocybe brasiliensis, Psilocybe columbiana, Psilocybe meridiensis, Psilocybe antioquiensis and others. From the U.S.A., Dr. Guzman described Psilocybe stuntzii from Washington (in collaboration with Jonathan Ott); Psilocybe tampanensis from Florida (in collaboration with Stephen Pollock); and Psilocybe weilii from Georgia (in collaboration with Fidel Tapia and mycologist Paul Stamets). Currently, Dr. Guzman has several papers in press, describing new species from Mexico, U.S.A., and Spain, as well as a checklist of all the known Psilocybe species in Europe. Also in progress (published) is a book on the worldwide distribution of the neurotropic fungi, in collaboration with John W. Allen and Jochen Gartz.

In his "Supplement to the monograph of the genus Psilocybe," published in 1995 by J. Cramer, Berlin (and dedicated to Professor Meinhard Moser), Dr. Guzman revised all the species described after his world monograph, and also described several new species and updated the keys for identification of the sections and species.




Currently he is revising his book. THe original book was $100.00 new so this time around it will be quite more.

I expect a copy for my work with Guzman. We still have some species which may or may not make the new book.

Next month he will began work on Shroomey Dan's Ohiop mushrooms for which Iposted some sem images.

Here is the title cover from his 1st Edition of the genus Psilocybe.

He has also published other books, all in Spanish of Mexican toxic, edibles and poisonous shrooms of the forests and mountains of Mexico.



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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: mjshroomer]
    #6344221 - 12/07/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I heard that before the Stamets doesn't go shrooming much anymore, which is why I think Peter Werner is doing collections around here now. I know he goes out and looks, and I bet those others at the fair do too. Ironically, they're both connected to the same MSSF and now there seems to be a disconnect even there.

Ok so at the fair they're saying this is the cyclone

and these are the fibs


The top one is what Tahoe thought were Azures, and I wasn't sure, I just know I never saw those before, and they're strong. Peter just posted and said they are NOT azures, and not part of the cyanescens complex, but might be stuntzii or subaeruginosa. I just think they're too strong to be stuntzii, tho they do have a veil remnant on the stem. Not a ring like stuntzii, just a faint remnant of one > http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6322247#Post6322247

The bottom one is what most people call the cyclone one, and is in Mycelium Running, and is the common one now. But Peter is sayng these are closer to cyanescens than to fibrillosa, and I think he said Guzman thinks that too > http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6322343#Post6322343

As far as the top one, all I can say is I checked the transplants I did last year, and all of them look very healthy (the mycelium)..They just haven't popped yet, so maybe soon.

Pretty soon I hope we're going to get more and better photos. Sorry to hear about some of this stuff with Stamets and Gartz, etc, MJ...I've heard this before with other people too. There's one guy here who's a commercial grower, knew Stamets for 20 years or so, and they haven't talked in awhile.

You know what I think?..I think a place like this will eventually become much more valuable than any of the periodic books that come out, for no other reason that it appears the changes are happening too rapidly for the books now, at least here. And at least here people can post tons of photos, rather than one or two that's been posted up until now. No such thing as too many photos, and that's never going to be worse than too few photos.

Even better, there's instantaneous peer review. What can takes years in book form takes minutes here. I'll bet those folks at the MSSF have a putie and are online. Peter's the only one I've seen here willing to post.

Other than here, there's the one display at the fair, one photo in Mycelium Running, a couple photos online, and that's it. A real dearth of info, except for here....and one other forum so far


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6344806 - 12/07/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I found a similar mushroom in Berkeley last year, I thought it was P. azurescens but Workman recently examined it but says it's not. This is the original specimen.





And some cultivated...


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6344846 - 12/07/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, lets see about one comparison..

the first one from a Japanese website > http://kinoko-ya.jp/01eng6/psilocybe_subaeruginascens02.htm


Yeah, I can see this. semi nipple, veil remnant on stipe..except the patch I found didn't get wavy, but that might not be normal anyway. I guess subaeruginascens is japanese?

I think Peter also mentioned they weren't quite like the subaeruginascens found in GG Park last year. I think that's the same one I saw at the MSSF meeting last year when somebody had a live specimen. That specimen was tiny compared to the Richmond find.

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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: WaylitJim]
    #6344848 - 12/07/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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I found a similar mushroom in Berkeley last year, I thought it was P. azurescens but Workman recently examined it but says it's not. This is the original specimen.





And some cultivated...





jajaja....yep yep....that looks more like what I found in Richmond last year...I'd say Bingo, those are the same ones

the second photo, note the sheen on the stipe and how it's sort of bumpy like that?..yep, I saw the same thing. those things are strong. I ate one average size and I felt it for 6 hours..recently a friend told me she ate just half of one and felt it most of the day, and those were dried for 6 months in a vacuum


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: auweia]
    #6345083 - 12/07/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

the one that the dude at the fair said was the cyclone had no nipple. We need peter in on this again. This guy acted as if he knew peter personaly and i saw him showing the fib and cyclones to him
stunzi?


cyanescens

unknown

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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #6347634 - 12/08/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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bluemeanie said:

Pics of the cystidia and basidia up in this thread would help lots.





Bluemeanie, within a few days I'll post a composite image of an unknown bay area psilocybe. (the one in my avatar)

In the meantime, here's one to check out. Composite by Workman.

Cheliocystidia occasionally forked, but not as described for Psilocybe cyanofibrillosa. This specimen came from WA, PNW USA. It was originally described as a cyanofib.





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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa [Re: WaylitJim]
    #6347969 - 12/08/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I have seen those here also and I would have said they were a cyanofibrilosa. WE always have to rememebr that one species can have so much variation in it that it can macroscopically resemble another species at time.

But I have P. stuntzii images with the same color in
the caps. I will post a few here to show you because generally a they are a brownish to caramel color in the caps changing to a straw yellow when drying.

But see this stuntzii here below




And this one here was also identified as a P. cyanofibrilosa which is so wet that ther eis no striate margin. SOmetimes, people walking over woodchip mulch flatten the mycelia and when shrooms come up they are mutated in shape formtheir mycelial network becoming corrupted by a heavy weight cauing a mutation inthe shapes of the sp hrooms. most likely to try to protect theirselves form excess weight when stepped on before they fruit.

I have one stuntzii that looks like a clitorus because of a mutated specimen directly behind it. And agfain, this more or less resembles the ones @cro and I found and the same as the Jeremy Bigwood Speci9mens posted at Michael beug's website and not the two images in Paul Stamets book PMOFW.



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