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Re: A Question For Mystic Heads

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#5495999 - 04/09/06 09:12 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Fantasy in my inner life usually has to do with The Barbi Twins or some equally suitable objects. Fantasies for me are usually rooted in Yesod (Kabbalistically speaking) or the Svadhisthana (genital) chakra. Sometimes a third chakra (or a Hod-Netzach) realm of fantasy intrudes, but power motives are rare for me consciously or unconsciously. I DID fantasize about drugging the neighbor's barking dog, so that would be a power center motive.

However, religious experience is not fantasized, dreamed up. It does not take on form, which belongs to lower centers of consciousness that I speak about in terms of ancient Jewish or Hindu systems of psychology (Kabbala and Yoga). Religious experience of a mystical (versus a 'visionary') type arrives in states which do not include more form than perhaps 'sound' or 'light' but not imagery which would have a corresponding conceptual aspect.

Read Evelyn Underhill's works on mysticism, or her contemporaries R.M. Bucke or William James. The late 19th century had some great minds that have yet to be surpassed on the subject.

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Re: A Question For Mystic Heads

[Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#5496097 - 04/09/06 10:08 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

more or less form,
I don't think we need to legislate how much form constitutes someone else's religious experience.
lots of form, and you can tell the formless is present by proxy, some form and perhaps the formless is present and deforming the vessel.

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