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The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent!
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2012 hasn't come up in a while, so I'm kicking off the first round of the new year.

Here's a list of End of the World predictions throuout history. You'll note that none came true. A * under Predictor indicates the data is too much to fit in the column. PM me if you want sources, and I'll hook you up with my FTP server.

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Date              Method of Demise     Predictor              Result
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Year 1 to ~100AD  Judgement Day        Jesus                  Nothing Happened
#Jesus told his apostles that the Kingdom of God would come to Earth before
the last of them died.  Check Matthew 16:28, Mark 8:39, and Luke 9:27.

992               Judgement Day        *                      Nothing Happened
Jan, 1000         Second Coming        *                      Nothing Happened
1033              Second Coming        Raoul Glaber           Nothing Happened
Sep, 1186         Plan. Alignment      John of Toledo         Nothing Happened
1260              Judgement Day        Joachim                Nothing Happened
1265              Judgement Day        Prestor John           Nothing Happened
1345              Judgement Day        *                      Nothing Happened
1350              Judgement Day        *                      Nothing Happened
1381              Judgement Day        Peasants' Revolt       Nothing Happened
1420              Judgement Day        The Taborites          Nothing Happened
Feb 1, 1524       Second Great Flood   Astrologers            Nothing Happened

Feb 20, 1524      Second Great Flood   Stoeffler              Nothing Happened
1528              Second Great Flood   Stoeffler              Nothing Happened

1532              End of the World     Frederick Nusea        Nothing Happened
1533              Judgement Day        Melchior Hoffmann      Nothing Happened
Oct 3, 1533 8am   Judgement Day        Stifel/Stifelius       Nothing Happened
1534              Judgement Day        Matthysz               Nothing Happened

1537              Judgement Day        Pierre Turrel          Nothing Happened
1544              Judgement Day        Pierre Turrel          Nothing Happened

1584              End of the World     Cyprian Leowitz        Nothing Happened
1588              End of the World     Muller                 Nothing Happened
1624              Second Great Flood   Astrologers            Nothing Happened
1648              Second Coming        Rabbi Sabbati Zevi     Nothing Happened
1654              End of the World     Helisaeus Roeslin      Nothing Happened
1654              End of the World     *                      Nothing Happened
1656              Judgement Day        Christofer Columbus    Nothing Happened
1657              Judgement Day        Fifth Monarchy         Nothing Happened
1665              End of the World     Solomon Eccles         Nothing Happened
1666              Second Coming        Rabbi Sabbati Zevi     Nothing Happened
1704              End of the World     Card. Nicholas Cusa    Nothing Happened
May, 1719         Comet Collision      Jacques Bernoulli      Nothing Happened
Oct, 1736         Judgement Day        Whiston                Nothing Happened
1757              End of the World     Emanuel Swedenborg     Nothing Happened
April 5, 1761     Judgement Day        William Bell           Nothing Happened
1774              Second Coming        Joanna Southcott       Nothing Happened

1801              Judgement Day        Pierre Turrel          Nothing Happened
1806              Second Coming        Pierre Turrel          Nothing Happened
1814              Judgement Day        Pierre Turrel          Nothing Happened

April 3, 1843     Judgement Day        William Miller         Nothing Happened
July 7, 1843      Judgement Day        William Miller         Nothing Happened
March 21, 1844    Judgement Day        William Miller         Nothing Happened
Oct 22, 1844      Judgement Day        William Miller         Nothing Happened

1874              End of the World     Charles Taze Russell   Nothing Happened
1881              End of the World     *                      Nothing Happened
1881              End of the World     Mother Shipton         Nothing Happened
1890              New World Begins     Ghost Dance Movement   Nothing Happened

1914              Judgement Day        Jehovah's Witnesses    Nothing Happened
1918              Judgement Day        Jehovah's Witnesses    Nothing Happened

1920              Second Coming        Col. J. Garnier        Nothing Happened

Feb, 1920         Judgement Day        Jehovah's Witnesses    Nothing Happened
1925              Judgement Day        Jehovah's Witnesses    Nothing Happened

1936              End of the World     *                      Nothing Happened
1941              Judgement Day        Jehovah's Witnesses    Nothing Happened
1947              End of the World     John Ballou            Nothing Happened
1948              Judgement Day        Millerites             Nothing Happened
1953              End of the World     *                      Nothing Happened

1972              Judgement Day        Jehovah's Witnesses    Nothing Happened

1975              Second Coming        Herbert Armstrong      Nothing Happened
1975              Judgement Day        Jehovah's Witnesses    Nothing Happened
1977              End of the World     John Wroe              Nothing Happened
Dec 31, 1980      End of the World     Old Arabic Calculation Nothing Happened
March 10, 1982    Harmonic alignment   *                      Nothing Happened

1986              World War III        Nostradamus            Nothing Happened

1989              Judgement Day        Jehovah's Witnesses    Nothing Happened

1992              Judgement Day        Korean Christians      Nothing Happened

Sept, 1994        Judgement Day        Family Radio Network   Nothing Happened
Oct 2, 1994       Judgement Day        Family Radio Network   Nothing Happened

April 16, 1995    Judgement Day        Korean Christians      Nothing Happened

1996              End of the World     *                      Nothing Happened

1999              Antichrist           Nostradamus            Nothing Happened
2000              World War III        Nostradamus            Nothing Happened
June 21, 2002     Second Coming        Nostradamus            Nothing Happened

2012              End of the World     Ancient Calendar       Probably Nothing

2036              Asteroid Close Call  SkorpivoMusterion      Maybe Something


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

Edited by Diploid (01/08/06 01:00 AM)

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: Diploid]
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You forgot Pat Robertson. He's had 3 false judgement day "prophecies" if I remember correctly.

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: Diploid]
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2012 actually correlates to some astronomical events, though some of those events may have too. I'm not sure about 2012 to be honest, though I think it would be cool if something happened. I have a sneaking suspicion that these shifts or 'apocalypses' are going to be more subtle than people expect.

Also, wasn't there a thread in the Mysticism board about apocalypse actually having a different historical meaning that it does now?


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: dblaney]
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Mm, do I smell a barbeque?

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: lysergicide]
    #5148145 -

I hope so, I'm kind of in the mood for something grilled.

Though I think your post may belong in the food board :wink:


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: dblaney]
    #5148162 -

2012 actually correlates to some astronomical events

The date corresponds to a conjunction of the ecliptic with the galactic plane. This happens once every ~26,000 years. That's ~200,000 times so far since the solar system formed.

What's one more time?  :confused:

Besides, I happen to know that the first Terminator arrives here from the year 2028, so there!  :tongue:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: Diploid]
    #5148170 -

Yeah, but this time for sure.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: Diploid]
    #5148185 -

What's one more time?

Beats me, I wasn't around last time.

Though you could argue that since last time it happened there's no record of anything out of the ordinary happening, chances are nothing extraordinary will happen this time around either. Still though, it's rather entertaining to imagine something happening.

Also one cannot discount the possibility that something would happen on a more subtle level than, say, aliens raining from the sky (cool as that would be, I don't think that that's going to happen).


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: it stars saddam]
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You forgot Pat Robertson. He's had 3 false judgement day "prophecies" if I remember correctly.

He's now saying Sharon's stroke is retribution from God for dividing Israel. :shrug:

That God fellow... damn, he's worse than terrorists.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: Diploid]
    #5148285 -

"Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard, the blizzard of the world
has crossed the threshold
and it has overturned
the order of the soul
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant"


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: Diploid]
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Um, is repent a scary word for some? I thought it just meant, to reflect on things you've done that were pretty shitty to do to yourself and others and to make your amends for them through forgiving yourself or some form of forgiveness in general. Forgiveness just means- giving way to what has been, is and will be. It's not a scary word either and opens new doors to better days.

No matter what time of life your in, making amends is never a bad thing to do. It does good and feels good. Forget about it improving the quality of your after life if you don't believe in one. Do it because, it improves the quality of the life you are living now.

You make it sound like  foolish, horrible and sinister advice diploid. :tongue:

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5148360 -

Actually, I believe that 2012 is the end of the last cycle of the Mayan calendar. The Mayans were freaky-good at astronomy, and had eclipse predicting down to a level beyond what any other ancient civilization had done.

Of course, most of the writings of exactly what happened were destroyed by the Spanish explorers, so most of what we know is, well, nothing.

Aside from that, the Mayans generally has a cyclical view of the universe, so rather then 2012 being the end, it'd most likely be some sort of rebirth.



More end of the world ideas here: http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm


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If you don't ask the question, you always get it wrong.

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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You make it sound like foolish, horrible and sinister advice diploid

You missed the joke embedded in the title of the thread, but then if I have to explain it, it won't be funny.

In any case, what's foolish, horrible, and sinister is believing the year 2012 will be different than any other.

And if history is any indicator, in 2013 the conspiracy nuts will invent yet another Armageddon d'Jour, then a few days later I'll revise my list and start this thread again. :shake:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: Diploid]
    #5148599 -

If people really believe life and the world will end on that date, just have fun knowing how funny it will be when the sun comes up over the horizon the next morning and there are still bills to paid and food to put on the table.

THEN you can laugh your ass off at the doomsdayers. And do your naner naner :razz: thing. Is that what this is all about to you, being right? Or would you really like to help resolve fears in others?

In the mean time, do you think a simple "It's BS!" Is going to change the mind off those who are really afraid?

Is making fun of them going to change their minds? Doubtful as it's difficult for people in fear to suddenly become lighthearted and reasonable for no good reason.

You can post that stuff of prophets who missed and yet, if you understand fear, that was then and this is now for people. The fear for them is about what's up ahead, not what has come and gone.

There is only one sane thing to do for those who are afraid. Listen to those that are acknowledging an ending of sorts, just not an ending of life and the planet.

Like when I found out that Apocalypse actually just meant revelation in Greek at the time it was used, not war and ending. I shared that. Its the revelations people who are scared of an end. One of these days Blue and I will work on that Bastard to and show, its not what it appears to be.

The 2012ers are going off the Mayan calender and that is just the ending of a cosmic cycle, not the end of human life or the planet. They are in understanding that just a sublle influential shift is undergoing, that's all. If you sneeze, you'll miss it it's so subtle.

Then you have me and others, who know, 12/21/2005 was the pivotal hump to get through and we did and all is well. We hit critical mass earlier then expected. And that was the BIG deal, the last weeks of Dec. if you sneezed, you missed it.

Why don't you wait until someone actually posts and says, they are afraid of whats to come and then, work through those fears with them one by one in a way THEY can relate to and understand you. It's going to be related to revelations and events discussed in it.

That has nothing to do with Mayan stuff and many are confusing the two. Start working on revelations if you want to understand their fears and resolve them.

And in the meantime, if its the scare some people need to wake up and get their shit together well, then , thats not a bad thing either.

What is your concern, that because people think the world is going to end that they will live like careless shit heads? Look around, people who don't fear the end do it anyways:lol:


I don't even know anyone who beleives the end of the world is nigh, Do you?

There have always been doomsday nuts. We are all still here. :shrug:

:shiftyeyes:

:peace: :love:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/rev.htm

This is the stuff scaring people. Take it verse by verse and  chapter by chapter and read it and understand why some are afraid.

:peace: :heart:

I'm going to start re-reading it myself so I can better understand the hub bub.


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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if they believed it enough, it was real for them, just not for anyone else, so the death they experienced was more like a 'second coming' persay to them, just looked like they died to everyone else...

imo


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"It is easier to teach a computer to play chess than to build a mudpie."Sherry Turkle Life on the Screen: Identity in the Age of the Internet
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts"-Einstein
:mrt: I pity the fool who break traffic laws with $870,000 of drugs in the car.      -mo0nlite_sonata
Psythos

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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Is that what this is all about to you, being right?

No Jigz, how can you read my thoughts for years and still have no clue what I'm about. It's never about me. It's about fighting irrationality, fighting it because it is harmful to believe fantasy as if it is reality.

Want examples?

1. It is irrationality that buries its head in the sand and refuses medical marijuana to patients dying in pain by refusing to acknowledge study after study after study (including some commissioned by the DEA and and later suppressed) that show MJ is one of the safest drugs humanity has ever discovered, and the other studies that show it does indeed help patients suffering cancer, AIDS, diabetic neuropathy, and a long list of other painful diseases.

2. It is irrational beliefs that have us killing and dying in Iraq by the dozens on a daily basis.

3. It is irrational beliefs that fosters the suicide bomber who thinks God wants him to blow himself up in a crowd of shoppers that often includes children.

4. It is irrational beliefs that justifies forced female circumcision, oppression, and physical and emotional abuse in male extremist religious fanatics around the world.

5. It is irrational beliefs that justified the forced castration of choir boys just before puberty by the church in order that their voices would remain in a high register pleasing to God.

6. It is irrational beliefs that killed ONE THOUSAND, including almost 300 CHILDREN in Guyana when wild irrationalist Jim Jones decided that's what God wanted.

7. It is irrational beliefs in UFO comets that lead nearly 40 people to castrate themselves and later commit suicide while wearing identical Nike sneakers in order for their 'souls' to hitch a ride on a spaceship.

8. It is irrational beliefs that lead the gullible and depressed to spend more than they can afford on disgusting predator psychics who tell them their dead loved one is happy.

9. As for 2012, that it is bullshit doesn't spare the gullible and dim-witted among us from suffering fear, stress, and depression. Witness the poor guy asking in MRP about the end of the world in 2012.

Want me to go on? I could all weekend and not run out of reasons irrationality was the scourge of humanity our entire history and only recently, with the rise of science and rationality, have we come from living in huts to landing on the moon.

Believing made up bullshit, including that which you've convinced yourself is true without corroboration other than your own flawed human psychology, is bad. Bad for you, bad for me, bad for everyone.

In 1000 years, if humans are still around, they will look back at these times the way we look back at how blood letting and leaches were used to cure disease and how witches were burned alive to ward off Satan.

I can't fix the world, but I can do my tiny part to fight these destructive bullshit beliefs, and here I am.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

Edited by Diploid (01/06/06 09:18 PM)

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: Diploid]
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I have one better then leeches. They are now sterilizing maggots to clean out open flesh wounds.

Diploid, you' cant erase the words of Paul in Revelations. You can work to attempt to understand them and attempt to understand why people believe in them. From there you can work to ease irrational fears.

You're ranting, is just a turn off to anyone with ears willing to listen.

I have been reading you for a long time, and I notice you only see the bad side of what you call irrational. People do a lot of irrational things that turn out well for themselves or towards accomplishing goals. We don't progress by rationing alone. Rationing is the process of conserving. How far do you take? Do you conserve to the point people are immobilized by fear paralysis of using and spending what is available to get from point A to point B.

Why do you think what is rational from your POV is the rational view from another's?

You haven't walked in everyones shoes to understand why they make the choices and decisions they do. Was it irrational of me to spend about the last 500 my business had just to bribe a mechanic to come out to look at the engine, when he said he was to busy that day? My husband thought I was nuts when I insisted and made the call. Had that boat not been able to go out the next day, a major resort that booked tours with us would've dropped us for canceling on a VIP party. I got the guy to come out, he waived the bribe, fixed it and we kept the major vendor that brought in $120,000 a year alone.

I have pulled more irrational shit then I can remember that saved the day and brought big returns.

There's a time to hold back and time to let it go and to go for it. What you call irrationality I call risk taking. Some loose big and some win big. It's how we have moved forward as much as we have been held back back by it, however, thanks to the majority being irrational, we are more ahead then behind in progress.

Oh ya, lets fill a ton of highly explosive rocket fuel into a metal tube and shoot people to the moon. Cool ya, go for it. I want to ride in it first! The nuts make the shit happen.

Where when and how people apply it is one thing. The results are another. Often being rational has lead to big losses for people.

As for that poor guy in MRP? That had puppet troll written all over it.

Who goes from absolutely shredding on people working with crystals to "Uhh do you believe the end of the world stuff?"

Suit yourself, keep mocking, keep judging, keep misunderstanding and think you are saving the world from what it's been built on.

Back in the day, it wasn't rational to go sail your boat off the end of the flat earth. People thought Christopher was fucken nuts.

My concern is that if everyone became rational tomorrow, the end would come-quickly as people caved in on themselves under the pressure of withholding and not believing, something extra ordinary can come of something when taking risks and chances, irrational as they may appear at the time.

Well, we agree on one thing here, we don't want to see people in needless fear.  I'm trying to understand the way you are going about it. The phrase-"It's Bullshit" is not supportive evidence to make one have a change of mind or heart. Until you can back up why revelations is BS, who that believes in it are you going to sway?

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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mmmmm, that song worked so well in Natural Born Kilers.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: The End of the World Is Nigh! Repent! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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The phrase-"It's Bullshit" is not supportive evidence to make one have a change of mind or heart.

Yah, tell that to the relatives of Jim Jones' victims. :thumbdown:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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