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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: Silversoul]
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*scratches head*

*then scratches other head*


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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Is that a serious question? I'm not religious. I'm more of a metaphysician type who likes playing with energy. Everything I do is a test of energy flows. Sometimes, I share my discoveries and observations.

If my husbands grandmother wants to say a Rosary over her husbands grave because she thinks it will help him in the after life, why should I stop her from doing it if it brings her joy and peace? It's her life.


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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your use of the word energy is metaphysical, and not the regular concept of physical energy, so since these beliefs are not proven, this is a form of personal religion


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: Swami]
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Are you saying I should take my tantric sex posts to the Pub? But I left my ID in the car...and I'm allergic to cigarette smoke.

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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OldWoodSpecter said:
your use of the word energy is metaphysical, and not the regular concept of physical energy, so since these beliefs are not proven, this is a form of personal religion


Did you or did you not just say we should put stuff to the test before we revolve our lives around them? When you put something to the test for yourself, you prove it to yourself. What sort of proof are you now chasm jumping to? The science fact sort?

That forum is two doors down and to the left. The spiritual experience is just that an "experience". People are paid BIG bucks in this world for having experience with something because its worth something. This falls in line with this forum and has nothing to do with religious beleifs.

If I am an experienced windsurfer and someone highers me to teach for their windsurf shop, wtf does that have to do with my beleifs?

If I practice something that involves techniques and feeling the forces I am working with, water and wind resistance, gravity, my body wieght, and get good at it through experience, what else is there to it? I can hop on a board, crack the sail and go.

It's called "manipulation" wood. Like how auto manufactures take matariels and manipulate them to make a car run? Are car manufactures religious believers?

Wood, the bottom line is, we give off electromagnetic energy. Science can measure this. Our hearts need an electrical pulse to beat. Electricity is energy. Science has validated our energetic beingness.

Wood, did you know that we use water falls and river flows and gravity to harness "energy".

Ever see two ball room dancers use energy to flow across the floor?

next person you see, tey an experiment wood. Speak to them soflty and see how they react. Then ten minutes later, yell at them as if you plan on killing them in a rage of anger and see how they react.

Then tell me again how this energy we can manipulate life with doesn't exist.


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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I don't understand how does this have to do with what we are talking about, and I don't have the "energy" to try that either, so I pull back


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Maybe because you didn't understand what you were talking about. Its like you have this idea that there is something else other then what is and there is just what is- Energy, light and sound frequencies, vibrating atoms, particles and waves.

Every one experiences "what is" differently and yet some of it the same. We can all look at a table and say "yes, it's a table". The more complex types will call it cut and carved and screwed together tree wood or even a hunk of atoms. After that, some may think its ugly, and others pretty. Some may appreciate the design and others find it worthless. Some may have a use for it and others none. What it actually is, is irrelevant. What's relevant is what people make it out to be and if they have an appreciation of it and a use for it or not.

Someone freezing cold might just see firewood to burn, a source of consumbale energy to create heat with.

Same with S&P topics.


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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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I see it as Swami would say "pseudoscience", the use of all the scientific terms, but in all the shaky unproven ways, as inventing a special kind of energy and calling it sexual energy.
It is an abstract poethic concept.
In sex there is movement (kinetic energy of bones), chemical reactions in the nervous system (chemical energy or micro gravity of atoms), there is electrical energy (kinetic energy of electrons) in the brain (thoughts), there is heat which exists through the skin (again kinetic energy of particles), potential energy (gravity) of the whole body (which makes you lie on the bed, or kitchen table or wherever), there are all kinds of energies involved, but what is "sexual energy"? Are you refering to all these energies together as "sexual energy"? In that case you are nameing energy by its purpuse, and that is simple poethic expression (not a new actual kind of energy), as saying "drinking water" (which is not really a new kind of water, but water that people use to drink)


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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"What is left to discuss but Ass Sex?"

Banana nut bread and racquetball?


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Anxiety is what you make it.

Edited by LunarEclipse (06/22/05 08:03 PM)

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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this post is about S&P being past its prime and you are back to talking about sex even here.  :lol:

Well, at least you showwed me my guess that you thought there was something else people were talking about other then what is was accurate.

No one said anything about a "new" energy. I thought that is what you were seeing. There is what is and it gets manipulated for personal use. That is all.

You say tomato and I say Tomahto. Either way, with salt on it it's good and when you smash it, it makes a mess, or you can add sugar and make ketchup with it. Energy is all and as many ways to use it as one can think of thats what we creative beings do.

BTW, why ask if people test out their philosophical, spiritual, religious, quantum or metaphysical theories first if it is all pseudo science to you anyway. You do know this is the phikosophy, spirituality and religion forum right? You do know the shroomery has a science and technology forum right?

People come here to discuss, debate and explore the intangible life experience. The tangible one is covered in science tech.

One forum tells us how nukes are made and the others helps us to figure out how to use them wisely and responcibly and when or if they should be used if at all.


There are people surrounded with material wealth and means to afford the best of science tech and science med and they are freaking miserable, their kids hate them, their friends are phoney and their spouce is cheating on them. Physical science has its limits for serving us on in this life and journey through it.

If some want to explore other areas and ways for bringing more peace, ease, understanding, fullfillment, and joy into their lives, why stop the movement because science says so? Modern science wouldn't have a reason to exist without those elements and its failing us in them too.

Call it pseudo science if you want but you are then the only one putting a label on something as if it is "new". There is nothing new about it.

Meta Physics is about sacred geometry and it's an ancient understanding of subtle energy fields. You will never stop people from discovering them and using them as they will. I'd be out of energy too if I tried to stop a movement of self discovery and self realization from the core of humans since human life began. :goodluck:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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Jesus, you should have toled me that in the first place and save me a....a DAY!!

I thought you were talking about a special kind of energy (sexual energy) that gets transfered during sex.

What you were talking about was use and transfer of regular forms of energy in purpuses (and during) of sex


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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Someone freezing cold might just see firewood to burn, a source of consumbale energy to create heat with.

Same with S&P topics.

How can we burn S&P topics to stay warm?  :tongue:


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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: LunarEclipse]
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Banana nut bread and racquetball?

I am baking up some excellent cranberry bread this week. It is the best!  :thumbup:


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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: Swami]
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Swami, after almost 13,000 posts and so many hours on S&P, you have seen it all.  You are like the android at the end of Blade Runner.  No, not Pris the other blonde.

Anyway, WTF did you expect?  I wonder what real satisfaction you get from debunking others experiences and beliefs over the past five years and nearly 13,000 posts. 

Remember, life begins at 50.  What a load of shit that is.  :thumbdown:  But, Happy 1/2 century and it's better than the alternative.  Bread is good but watch that waistline.


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Anxiety is what you make it.

Edited by LunarEclipse (06/22/05 08:19 PM)

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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"Religious types know their views are unwelcomed here. They are halting science progress and called superstitious and fearful. Philosophy types are accused of mental masturbation. Spiritual types who only have the intangible experience to discuss are reduced to mentally il delusional types having chemical imbalance reactions as the cause for all of their intangible spiritual/paranormal experiences and are accused of being in fear."

You should know that this forum is not about uplifting affirmations. You throw your idea out and what part of it the sharks don't eat might be good. I am a spiritual type as mentioned above, and I have found that honest spiritual beliefs cannot be challenged because they form your core as a person. It does irritate me when I see people passing off what I know to be dishonest and incorrect information as fact. Many people come here after truth...and they should not have to wade through what is obvious bullshit to find it. The information presented here should be presented in good faith and not as ego aggrandizing misinformation.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: LunarEclipse]
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I've...seeeeeen things you people wouldn't believe, attack ships on fire (missing text)...I've watche C-beams glitter in the dark at Tenhouser gates (or whatever), I've seen endless threads about 2012 and aliens, all those threads will be lost in time (when I debunk them) like tears..in the rain..time to get to bussines

*yamaha cs-80 growls in the background*


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

Edited by OldWoodSpecter (06/22/05 08:28 PM)

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: LunarEclipse]
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I have made several good friends here; some may last a lifetime. I have educated and been educated, shared some warmth, some interesting discussion, a little melodrama and some laughs.

Is that not enough?

What I wonder is why so many over the years (about 50 by my rough count) are SO dang interested in my motivation for being here.


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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: LunarEclipse]
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That is a truly mean spirited post.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: Swami]
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I have made several good friends here; some may last a lifetime. I have educated and been educated, shared some warmth, some interesting discussion, a little melodrama and some laughs.

Is that not enough?



i like lunar's take on s&p too but damn that's a sweet sentiment

IMO s&p is what you make it.


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Re: Is S&P past it's prime? [Re: Swami]
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yes and no.


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Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are -Kurt Cobain
       



     
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