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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: psyka]
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Like you did. Deciding what is true right now so that we can close the case


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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That would sure make things a whole lot easier.

Unfortunately, the world is not as wise as you :P


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my wick will burn out.
But, the fire of my mind
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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: psyka]
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as you

I'm not the one that decided the eternal equestion of existence of god in one post


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Oh comeon... you dont really think there is a ape-like being in the sky that casts judgement on all other ape-like beings on Earth do you?

That is what the majority of people (the ones who define morality) think when they hear the word God.


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: psyka]
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That is not a very efficient way of finding truth..relying on what is silly to you and what is not

perhapse there is a tooth fairy somewhere that is actually a transvestite, no way to know, if some old viking once said he saw one, it is nice to give him a benefit of a doubt, regarless of how ridiculous it sounds.

Some humans find advanced physics ridiculous, does that mean they should conclude that it is not true then?


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Physics obviously is not ridiculous...lol. It is proven. Look around.

Evidence of its existance is abundant.


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As the life of a candle,
my wick will burn out.
But, the fire of my mind
shall beam into infinite.

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: psyka]
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I do believe in physics, but some people don't because they find it ridiculous.
The point is that they use their sense of ridiculous as an argument, just as you do


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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OldWoodSpecter said:
uriahchase said:
Who says god created everything and that he is omnipresent?
Could you back it up with some Bible quotes?

Genisis 1:1 "In the beggining, God created the heavens and the Earth.."

Mathew 28:20 "..and lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world."

Nahum 1:7 "The lord is good, a stronghold in the day of trouble.."

need more?


God made heavens and earth...what about the rest of the stuff? One planet, and a conceptual place (or whatever it is) is not the entire universe.

And everlasting is not omnipresent

keep trying


"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.", Genesis 1:1

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him." Colossians 1:16

"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1:3

"For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else." Isaiah 45:18

"...The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament showeth his handiwork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night showeth knowledge." Psalms 19:1,2


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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all things. "All things" had a different meaning to Jews then and now. When a Jew writes "all things", does he mean the gas giant we have recently discovered and dark matter?
The old Jews didn't know about the existence of anything exept land and sky and sea and all between.


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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The Heavens = The Universe. Read up on biblical stuff if you want more references. http://www.google.com/ . It has always been a religious belief that god created "everything" or "all that is", surely the universe fits in that statement.


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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Heavens in the bible is described as the place from where god lives and angels come from. Earth is where humans and all the rest creatures live. One day, heaven comes to earth so that these places are equal.

The idea of universal god as some abstract concept is NOT a biblical concept. Bible describes a god as just another limited creature that makes mistakes, does not know everything and is not omnipotent.

The concept of god as we have it in churches today is a romantic version of god, made with mixing philosophy, eastern religion concept of universe, and a bit of "common sense"

Biblical god is not the omnipotent soul of the universe because he made modern humans through series of trials and errors, and still wasn't succesfull.


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I descend upon your earth from the skies
I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

Edited by OldWoodSpecter (06/17/05 09:03 PM)

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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for lack of a better word "god" is both evil and good....

"god" is all.....everything....the complete totality



..........if it wasn't for hate there couldn't be love

if u understand that properly u will understand it all........


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: Billy1111]
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Very nice! :cool: And welcome to the Shroomery! :heart:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: Billy1111]
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Very nice, and welcome to shroomery


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: Billy1111]
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as you can see we are very likeminded people, it's just that some of us can't spell


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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People who believe in God believe that everything is a creation by the hands of God. They interpret the bible as they will because it is indeed their belief system, not yours. You have a different view on things.

To the people who believe in God, God created the universe. They are the only people who this belief matters to. If it is not your belief that is fine but there is no since in argueing. Everybody has their own beliefs and this interpretation of the bible only matters to those who believe in the book.


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Edited by mattzdope (06/17/05 10:56 PM)

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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As I interpret the Bible, God created evil along with everything else. God is the one who set Satan up with his own place.

(Isaiah 45:7, KJV) - "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: uriahchase]
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" I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." -Isaiah 45:7


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Whoops! My bad H. - should've read to the bottom.

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Not your fault...I added it as an afterthought on an edit. You added yours just after I did my edit. Good coincidence.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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