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The presence of evil, and the creater of everything...
    #4307557 - 06/17/05 03:04 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

God hypothetically created everything.?
but isn't it fair to say that evil is the absence of good? and it is also fair to say that God is good? and if God is omnipresent (present everywhere) how can this be???

unles God were evil and good? ang-hellic?
good-bad?

:frown: :confused:


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4307574 - 06/17/05 03:12 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

You've confused yourself on your own abstractions.

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4307585 - 06/17/05 03:15 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Who says god created everything and that he is omnipresent?
Could you back it up with some Bible quotes?


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4307589 - 06/17/05 03:16 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Here's my hit on this. :crazy2: Good or love is energy. Everything is energy including "God". Freeflowing energy feels like love. If the energy is trapped and not moving/stagnant, it becomes the dark energy of evil/bad. Get it moving again and it's love. They are the same energy. All is one. :crazy2: :tongue: :crazy: :thumbup:


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: Icelander]
    #4307663 - 06/17/05 03:35 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

flowing energy can be evil too

supose you turn on all the lights in your house, your washing machine, all TV's, and the oven too. The energy flows, actually you realize it flowed too much when you get the bill, and then you get frustrated because you can't pay it, and you kill the man that collects money for electricity (or however you pay it in your country)


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: Icelander]
    #4307681 - 06/17/05 03:39 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
If the energy is trapped and not moving/stagnant, it becomes the dark energy of evil/bad.




I thought that Hitler was a routine goose-stepper... :grin:

Personally, I'm an avid goose strangler. :evil:

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4307992 - 06/17/05 04:52 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

uriahchase said:
God hypothetically created everything.?
but isn't it fair to say that evil is the absence of good? and it is also fair to say that God is good? and if God is omnipresent (present everywhere) how can this be???

unles God were evil and good? ang-hellic?
good-bad?

:frown: :confused:




fair to say that God is good? how?  :wink: :thumbup:

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4308008 - 06/17/05 04:56 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

OldWoodSpecter said:
flowing energy can be evil too

supose you turn on all the lights in your house, your washing machine, all TV's, and the oven too. The energy flows, actually you realize it flowed too much when you get the bill, and then you get frustrated because you can't pay it, and you kill the man that collects money for electricity (or however you pay it in your country)




Gosh, I never thought of that. Time to revise my theory.  :evil:

Of course you know that energy restricted to wires is not free flowing. Still that doesn't change the fact that you are crazy. :whoa:


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: fireworks_god]
    #4308017 - 06/17/05 05:01 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
If the energy is trapped and not moving/stagnant, it becomes the dark energy of evil/bad.




I thought that Hitler was a routine goose-stepper... :grin:

Personally, I'm an avid goose strangler. :evil:

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Peace. :mushroom2:




And I'll deal with you as soon as I can figure out what you're talking about. :confused: :syringe:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: Icelander]
    #4308021 - 06/17/05 05:02 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

well there is no flowing without restriction.
A river flows in one direction because it has shores. If you remove the shores of all the rivers in the world, there is no flowing, only one big lake.

crazy? God, I must be really crazy because I'm being called crazy on shroomery (which is full of crazy people) . I mean that is REALLY crazy them.


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: Icelander]
    #4308024 - 06/17/05 05:03 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

New from Billy Blank...TAE BO GOOSESTEPPING!
Heil Hitler and thinner thighs!!


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4308073 - 06/17/05 05:23 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

OldWoodSpecter said:
well there is no flowing without restriction.
A river flows in one direction because it has shores. If you remove the shores of all the rivers in the world, there is no flowing, only one big lake.

crazy? God, I must be really crazy because I'm being called crazy on shroomery (which is full of crazy people) . I mean that is REALLY crazy them.




Lakes have currents also. Quit fucking with my pet theory! :evil:

You are God. And the Gods must be crazy. :crazy:


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: Icelander]
    #4308102 - 06/17/05 05:36 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Who says god created everything and that he is omnipresent?
Could you back it up with some Bible quotes?


Genisis 1:1 "In the beggining, God created the heavens and the Earth.."

Mathew 28:20 "..and lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world."

Nahum 1:7 "The lord is good, a stronghold in the day of trouble.."

need more?


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4308168 - 06/17/05 05:55 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

I wouldn't consider god to be good or bad, but there are these forces of nature that allows us to choose our own path in which good or evil will arise, after ones path is chosen. The difficult task is changing your path if you are completely evil you must find things that can turn you good. People change other people, no matter what in this world we exist with both. Both is just a perception. If you look at it from a basic stance, our language has evolved but still there are the basic instinct inside of us, survival instincts.

Back to the basics.
Keeping our bodies alive if our first key instinct. Everything else keeps us seperated. We are all one race, all one species. All the rest like entertainment and our choses of things we like and dislike can lead to arguments, these people that get into arguments over differences are not evolved. An evolved race would interact and still share things no matter what. Now if those who are arguing over certain things is because we are still a weak species that live on this planet. We definetly need love and compassion for one another. These emotions we have that drive us will eventually lead us to war. Emotions play a big part in our daily lives. If we were smart we'd try to focus on other things then our emotions. Our emotions are misleeding and can lead to us being angry, sad, unhappy.

If there was a god that had control of the universe he/she certainly wouldn't be human. If you could only see this world as an organism and as a whole do you better view the world as a peaceful place and nothing can harm you.

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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: Icelander]
    #4308174 - 06/17/05 06:00 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

And the Gods must be crazy.

Great movie!  :thumbup:

And the sequel is almost as good.

By the way, how many Ergs is God made of? :tongue:


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: Droz]
    #4308202 - 06/17/05 06:12 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Good ideas. I talked about this in another thread. I quoted from Leary's book The Politics of Ecstasy. Emotions are fear based, according to him. Unconditional love being not emotional, but instead a serene merging with yourself, others and other forms of energy." The great kick of the mystic experience , the exultant, ecstatic hit, is the sudden relief from emotional pressure."

I think you and he are talking about the same thing. :mushroom2:


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4308395 - 06/17/05 07:38 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

uriahchase said:
Who says god created everything and that he is omnipresent?
Could you back it up with some Bible quotes?


Genisis 1:1 "In the beggining, God created the heavens and the Earth.."

Mathew 28:20 "..and lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world."

Nahum 1:7 "The lord is good, a stronghold in the day of trouble.."

need more?




God made heavens and earth...what about the rest of the stuff? One planet, and a conceptual place (or whatever it is) is not the entire universe.

And everlasting is not omnipresent

keep trying


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: uriahchase]
    #4308404 - 06/17/05 07:39 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

There is no God. Problem solved.


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: psyka]
    #4308422 - 06/17/05 07:45 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

gee, let's solve all our problems like that


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Re: The presence of evil, and the creater of everything... [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4308435 - 06/17/05 07:48 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Like what?


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