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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2443865 - 03/17/04 05:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Knowledge is the root of all evil?

Humans cannot survive without acquiring knowledge. To call man's essential tool of survival evil is to say that the existence of humans is evil.

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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: Phred]
    #2443874 - 03/17/04 05:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

In general, I'd say it's the LACK of knowledge/awareness/understanding that is the general root(s) of evil..



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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2443893 - 03/17/04 05:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

As would I.

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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: Phred]
    #2443906 - 03/17/04 05:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Knowledge is the root of all evil?

Humans cannot survive without acquiring knowledge. To call man's essential tool of survival evil is to say that the existence of humans is evil.


if knowledge is a tool of survival, and that tool allows evil to survive and thrive (see human history), is that tool not evil?


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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2443949 - 03/17/04 05:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Tools are not evil in and of themselves.

Humans cannot survive without water. Does this mean water is evil?

To the extent that evil is a concept applicable only in the context of human consciousness, and considering there would be no human consciousness in the absence of humans, and considering that human knowledge is an essential requirement for the presence of humans, one could draw a flimsy connection between knowledge and evil.

Using the same logic, one can say that water or air or the Earth or the Sun or the lifeforms upon which humans feed or any number of other things as the root of all evil. Why single out knowledge?

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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: Phred]
    #2443968 - 03/17/04 05:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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pinksharkmark said:
Knowledge is the root of all evil?

Humans cannot survive without acquiring knowledge. To call man's essential tool of survival evil is to say that the existence of humans is evil.

pinky



I think the point could be argued that human existence is evil. Not that I agree with that, but I think you could make a valid argument for that.


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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: silversoul7]
    #2443988 - 03/17/04 06:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

silversoul7 writes:

I think the point could be argued that human existence is evil. Not that I agree with that, but I think you could make a valid argument for that.

Many have tried, but none can escape the conundrum that Evil is a valid concept only in the context of human consciousness. So is Good, for that matter.

The mere fact that humans exist validates concepts such as good, evil, love, hate, envy, admiration, and many more. Why single out evil?

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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: Phred]
    #2444005 - 03/17/04 06:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Tools are not evil in and of themselves.

Humans cannot survive without water. Does this mean water is evil?
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Using the same logic, one can say that water or air or the Earth or the Sun or the lifeforms upon which humans feed or any number of other things as the root of all evil.


it's not really the same logic.
ok, disregard my first post, I said "if knowledge is a tool of survival..." and made a point, but I should have said that knowledge really isn't a tool of survival.

water and air are necessary for human survival, and I'm sure you can imagine humans breathing air and drinking water and NOT being evil.

however, knowledge, in the context of this thread (see the original post), is NOT necessary for human survival. we have broadened the scope of this thread to include things like "how to find food" and "how to reproduce" as "knowledge", when clearly, the orignial post was referring to something else. humans could survive without knowing things like greed, hate, or love. I think the knowledge required for survival can better be described as instinct.

Why single out knowledge?

I'm not singling out knowledge required for survival (instinct), but I think that humans are unique in that we can know things beyond what is required simply to survive, and humans are also uniquely evil, as opposed to the rest of nature. I think the story of the garden of eden and the tree of knowledge has some truth to it.

evil is a concept applicable only in the context of human consciousness

agreed.


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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2444631 - 03/17/04 09:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

With knowledge we can see through the falsehoods of life and see the real evil. True knowledge is the cure.


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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: MAIA]
    #2445758 - 03/18/04 01:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ignorance is in fact the root of all evil. racism prejudice ect ect. all because the lake of knowledge of our fellow man.

knowledge will lead u down he right path. you can learn from others mistakes, live a better life through tools knowing what foods to eat ect. actually knowledge passed on was how humans evolved hwo we did today. otherwise we woudl still be on the grass lands scavanging and pickign our bumbs.


church is the root of all evil. religon is alright. but church organizations are what teh majority of lives have ben lost fightign about. gaining power such as the catholics. blah blah blah

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Re: Knowledge is the root of evil [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2446354 - 03/18/04 09:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ask the gnostics for their version of what happened in that garden...
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